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the spoke radio for the masses yeah bad

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how you doing today is Wednesday October

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11th 284 days into the new year just 81

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days left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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I'm your host Jimmy Church what is

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tonight our special guest John D'Souza

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all right Tom DeLonge today did his live

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stream I would call it a almost a press

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that tonight we have to do it a little

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bit with with D'Souza and maybe bring it

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conversations in the post and and

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Twitter today was just non-stop still

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still going Facebook all of social media

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he is talking about this what was

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revealed today was it what everybody was

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interesting the one thing I do want to

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comment on is yesterday the to the stars

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team over there well you know Tom wanted

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me to see the presentation video in

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advance and comment on it I didn't

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mention this last night on the show that

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just wouldn't be cool but so I was sent

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that yesterday and Reid and I both

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watched it together you know I didn't

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see it without Rita's what I'm saying we

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watched it together and just went okay

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I didn't know what Tom was gonna say

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today or how the the presentation was

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going to be handled but there you go Tom

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it set up it was the presentation that

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would have would have been the right

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place but so we're gonna talk about all

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tomorrow's Thursday night its fate or

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and then we'll talk about all of that

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tomorrow night on the show okay all

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anything I can't do anything I feel like

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show crackin right

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now I've got Don Schmidt he's right here

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waiting in the background and you know

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I'm gonna bring it this is what I'm

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gonna do I'm gonna bring him down early

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because I want to run a couple of things

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past him here all right Don welcome back

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to the show my friend hey Jimmy how are

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you great to be back right man you got

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the distinctive voice man you know I

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know it I envy your voice come on I know

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it's you when it's you but a couple of

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things really quick I wanted to bring

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you in early because at this point in

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the show I always say happy birthday to

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a couple of you know people out there

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that that affected my life and what's

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weird these two today I'm gonna ask you

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right now because you're a singer right

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Daryl Daryl Hall today is 71 oh my god

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yeah right it is it's he's like Mick

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Jagger old I love I mean they're uh

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Darrell's house Joe got that show was so

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good I love that show and most people

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aren't aware of the fact that daryl hall

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and his former wife and a couple of his

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kids they all suffer from Lyme disease

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that's right and that can be a very you

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know debilitating disease and that there

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are entire you know times there are days

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know I know I had I had read something

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the other day that if if a couple of

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things didn't come into play early on

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that 100 percent of the US would have

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Lyme disease today yes yes yes some

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crazy fact it is not I have a brother

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and a niece and there and my brother's

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wife they all they live up in a wooded

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area and they're stricken with the

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condition yeah and you can carry it for

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years and not show any symptoms not and

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and not even know it that's correct and

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it can become life-threatening and

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that's right it can wreak havoc with

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your joints and eventually your hearts

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and as a rezoning you're absolutely

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correct

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they're talking about that within five

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to ten years that the entire country

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could be impacted so yeah it's pretty

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nice I'll tell you what I like about

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Darrell's house is Darrell's house yeah

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that's a house

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also today Joan Cusack is 55 years old

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and and I just think she's great

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and she would have been a star without

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her brother right that but Grosse Pointe

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blank brother's that we generally you

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know we think of and were you know

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knowledgeable of but but you're also

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correct about Joan as well absolutely

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she's great she's great she was that

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she's overshadowed by your brother but

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yes she certainly could stand on her own

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otherwise and also today are you ready

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for this you and I are going to show our

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age because I remember this like it was

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yesterday on this day in history OTD in

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1975 Saturday Night Live debuted yes I

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remember I had to take my my girlfriend

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who would become my first fiancee to the

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movie and she needed to see it twice and

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a third time and because of Travolta and

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his dancing oh no no no no no Don Don

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not Saturday Night Fever Saturday Night

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Live Saturday Night Live but it's it's

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the same era so there you go you are

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showing but you know what my preference

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was at that time it was not Saturday

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it was SC TV oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

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and my love like Joel flirty and John

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Candy and Catherine O'Hara and all them

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and holstered you know the second city

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troupe you know I I just loved them who

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was I remember John Candy's character

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what does Johnny LaRue Johnny LaRue

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that's it Johnny LaRue and the station

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manager guy Caballero

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we spent in a wheelchair just for

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sympathy I love that show demoted him

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and gave him a new show called Street

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beef for all he did was you know go out

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and you know with a single camera sound

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man and get the you know the word of the

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you know the man on the street that type

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of a thing and he just hated it

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unbelievable and well Saturday Night

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Live debuted but this is what it's

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trippy and we all lose sight of this the

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Gilda Radner Garrett Morris Jane Curtin

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holy crap right holy crap and only one

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of them has gone so far right blue she's

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gone no Gilda Radner

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she died of cancer but Chevy's still

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here Dan's still here Garrett's still

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here I haven't heard from Jane or

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Lorraine and quite a long time but but

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I've got a fader fact for you before we

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continue this conversation this is for

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you okay now I bet you didn't know this

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but this is a fact this is a vetted

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fader fact print book sales have risen

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while eBook sales have plunged in the

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United States and the UK in 2016

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how crazy is that did you know that

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print book sales I don't do the road

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because you know just you know our

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Museum in Roswell our gift shop our gift

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shop alone there's a million and a half

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dollars a year and book sales have been

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at a steady decline for all probably

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last ten years sure are correct and that

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there has been an uptick and the ebooks

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have dropped off so now that you mention

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it yes yes that does make sense yeah I I

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would have predicted who would have

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thought you know there's one thing about

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you know going to you know with the

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brick-and-mortar stores and going in and

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feeling something before you buy it

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checking it out picking it up but I knew

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that Amazon there's some

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a lot of things we just don't need to

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check out we know what we want when we

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are going to the store and that's what

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we're going to buy and going online and

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getting it is fine

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but and book sales the thing that I

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fought and I still don't agree with an

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e-book is not a book it's a different

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that's it that's it's not a book

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something author I could agree more

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there's just something about you know

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having that hard copy that weathered you

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know book that has shown all the

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attention of the years and hopefully

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multiple readers that's right and as it

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gets handed down from you know

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generation of generation and I can't

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imagine an ebook ever being a

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collectible that's right sure you're

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gonna hand that's gonna be in your will

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right so what did that what did dad

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leave you he left me his ebook

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collection I know for also you know as

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far as being an artist and having you

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know gone to school for art the thought

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that who is ever gonna hang a piece of

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computer artwork up on their wall well

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having an e-book out there that the

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author and the publisher can up update

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and add new photos and new tax changes

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to I get data so yes absolutely

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but that's how we also submit you know

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in the past you submitted a hard copy

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manuscript for our you know final

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editing and approval

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now you just just send in your your disk

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and they can actually you can edit as

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you're right I mean that's the great

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just like digital cameras you can edit

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as you said you film so it has many

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advantages but for the buyer for the

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reader know it's just like the film you

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go to a movie you don't want to see how

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the film was made and all the changes

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that were made throughout that was one

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of things that spoiled me like being on

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the Roswell movie set that for the next

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five years I was overly critiquing

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everything I saw because I knew this

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camera shot now over the shoulder and

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how this would have been stopped and how

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many times they probably see

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this conversation and that type of thing

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and yeah yeah be a while to get over

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that

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now before I I do want to ask you about

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Tom DeLonge but we'll do that in a bit

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you're you're heading to LA you're gonna

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be here next Tuesday speaking at you

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parts here in LA was Steve Murillo and

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then you head down to Orange County for

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Orange County MUFON is that the next day

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or two day it's the next little very

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next evening right okay now all of the

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information for that we're going to talk

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about in just a second but I'm sure

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Don's got it up on his Facebook page you

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pars has their meetup page you can just

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do that we'll get the links up for it

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but that will be here in Studio City and

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then down in Orange County at Orange

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County MUFON on Wednesday night and so

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what are you going to be speaking about

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I'm speaking and and we did the book two

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years ago now but it's it's it's often

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you know these are unsung heroes and

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that being the children the families of

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all the primary Rossville witnesses of

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1947 and the fact that they also lived

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in you know the conditions of the same

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suppression the same fear they if we're

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not having any answers any knowledge of

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what their father is what their husbands

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had experienced but but nonetheless they

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lived with someone who essentially lived

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in a bubble that was still controlled by

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the government right up until their

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passing and they need someone to speak

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out for them and that was the reason we

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did the book the children of Roswell and

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that's what my two talks will be about

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both Tuesday and Wednesday night

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children of Roswell the the book is

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excellent and I've had it geez you were

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on the show when it was released

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you know and I've had it for about two

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years the book is excellent and you can

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just go to Amazon right there in order

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the book and but one of the great things

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about Amazon and ordering books is we're

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talking about this eBook printed book

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thing Amazon you just punch in Donna

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Schmidt Amazon in your search right goes

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straight to the Amazon page

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view and what's really cool is you've

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got an author's page you've got you know

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your bio all of your all of your

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releases are right there in Amazon and

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they make it really easy to buy more

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than one book right and we presently

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have four books that are in print so yes

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you're absolutely correct about that but

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I still like going into a Barnes & Noble

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and you know just it just has that

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atmosphere I missed the borders I missed

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the be Dalton's and the wall and books

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and all the places that I originally did

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all the book signings you know 2025

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years ago you know and it doesn't it

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shouldn't be considered ancient history

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and you just brought up a good point I

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mean for a lot of people that weren't

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around for bookstores you know if you're

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under the age of twenty twenty-five you

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may never have even seen a bookstore and

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there was nothing like that experience

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nothing the smell as well just lost a

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Hastings bookstore in Roswell and it was

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their bookstore and there the record

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store for all these years and the drive

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by and see that vacant building what's

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still the Marquis Hastings you know

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right and I listen to the townspeople

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all lamenting all the fact that we lost

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our bookstore our only bookstore sad

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yeah here in LA as far as I know there's

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a few small record stores but there's

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only one left in LA there's one amoeba

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music and its massive and it's cool

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and it's half used and half new but it's

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it's it that's it they're no more Tower

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Records I mean how is that possible you

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know though yeah we're just you know

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just being nostalgic you know I've kept

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a lot of my record albums just for the

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sake that maybe someday they'll be worth

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something and you certainly can't

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replace them but with with music you

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know we just have so many outlets

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whereas with a book it's still printed

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matter it's still something that it's

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both audible and visual

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unless you're actually into music and

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you know studying the lyrics and you

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know me the sheet music itself IIIi can

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see were there's so many you know

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different venues today for music but

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let's hope that indeed that books are

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making a comeback the the big debut the

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big debut

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the big announcement happened today with

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Tom DeLonge did you watch it

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yes I did yes I did and and to me it as

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much as we hope for the inevitability of

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disclosure I realized that past attempts

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past efforts past you know

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considerations have all failed and it's

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only because we've relied on the the

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disclosures to finally come clean to

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finally bring us into the fold and and

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tell us what they know and that's always

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been our mistake I saw it with dr. J

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Alan Hynek for a number of occasions in

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the past were we're living in Emison

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Illinois just north of Chicago and he

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would be whisked away at all hours of

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the night for some big announcement at

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WGN you know television or radio in

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downtown Chicago that something was

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coming from Washington and I saw that

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fall apart on two separate occasions and

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then after Heinicke passed away we had

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another opportunity where we were told

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you know there was going to be a major

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disclosure in Washington and we were all

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supposed to prepare to make our way

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independently to Washington on a

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specific date we weren't supposed to

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talk between ourselves and it was all

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very hush-hush

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and that too was just you know whisper

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in the wind type of thing and I know

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Steve Bassett has been our champion as

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far as in all of his lobbying efforts

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and for just the the fact that he's

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devoted his life to the inevitability of

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disclosure and

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often you know Jimmy we've even talked

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that it's not going to happen in your

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lifetime not in my lifetime that type of

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thing

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but then it comes down to well what if

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we force the issue what will it take for

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us to finally you know you know garner

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enough public support that there will be

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this groundswell of pressure that

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finally even when you consider the last

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time Bill Clinton was on Jimmy Kimmel

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right he's all he talked about you know

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that he went on and I had eight years of

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the Oval Office and they wouldn't tell

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me the truth about this well so we're in

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high company as well so it's like the

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old Rockefeller initiative starting all

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over again how do we enlist people in

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high positions to finally say enough is

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enough and that we to demand the answers

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remember that I wouldn't they would been

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rich with skunk works and his suggesting

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that we have technology and even that we

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have becalmed beyond the moon and that

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type of thing well what if that is true

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but that's exactly what that's it see

509
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that what it was so and I have to you

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know hats off to Tom he really has put

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together a team that has never been done

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like this before

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it's you know it's never been like this

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and to have this public this is an SCC

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filing of selling stock so now the

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spending is in the public domain you you

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can vote if you're a stockholder right

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now you can vote you can you know this

519
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is being handled like it's never been

520
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done this way before

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it's man I mean hats off you know we're

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talking about a punk-rocker

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you know from from San Diego that has

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pulled this off

525
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very bad what's sad is that in all of

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the anticipation that for the novice

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yeah it blew them away they expected

528
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that there was going to you know that he

529
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was going to come out

530
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with a cadaver of an alien or something

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and say it's all true ladies and

532
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gentlemen now let's get on with the rest

533
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:50,010
of our lives that type of thing it's

534
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it's been 70 years in the making as far

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as the cover-up let's hope it doesn't

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00:26:00,410 --> 00:25:57,150
take 70 years to unravel but nonetheless

537
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:00,420
it has to be done in stages and I think

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that they are exercising the right

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approach in that lest they get shut down

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completely unless they you know or stop

541
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dead in their tracks that we don't ever

542
00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:13,830
hear from any of them again they have to

543
00:26:18,770 --> 00:26:16,140
do it incrementally and I think that

544
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this is an approach that at least it's

545
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:23,010
worth trying and that by then drawing in

546
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:27,120
even additional people all of a sudden

547
00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:28,710
they get a Richard Branson all of a

548
00:26:34,610 --> 00:26:31,220
sudden they get you know other people

549
00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:34,620
this is an opportunity that you know

550
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:37,080
Bigelow could not once again there's all

551
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:39,809
this work with NASA that's right it

552
00:26:45,470 --> 00:26:43,290
should be able to also step in and and

553
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:45,480
there again that's where we start you

554
00:26:50,930 --> 00:26:48,000
know getting people in a high positions

555
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to start leading the charge because as

556
00:26:56,419 --> 00:26:54,390
long as it's only those of us that more

557
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:56,429
times than not we're bickering and we're

558
00:27:01,640 --> 00:26:58,640
fighting and we're attacking one another

559
00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:01,650
you know present company not included

560
00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:03,929
mm-hmm we're spinning our wheels we're

561
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:06,360
not making any headway and I for one as

562
00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:07,679
you know Jimmy and I know you're the

563
00:27:12,169 --> 00:27:09,870
exact same way I don't need to waste my

564
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:12,179
time with such people you can't because

565
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:13,650
they're not advancing the cause

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00:27:19,790 --> 00:27:17,850
whatsoever that's exactly the man I it

567
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:19,800
couldn't have been said better than the

568
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:22,080
way you just put it that I have been so

569
00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:25,530
vocal about that for so long and you

570
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,870
know and you know I I don't know what

571
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:33,600
else can be done I have seen what I've

572
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:35,910
seen in the skies I you know nobody

573
00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:38,370
needs to tell me you know that we're not

574
00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:42,030
alone right that that part I'm okay with

575
00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:44,580
but it's it's everybody else out there

576
00:27:48,620 --> 00:27:46,860
how do we handle that how do we do this

577
00:27:50,030 --> 00:27:48,630
how do you know what and I've said it

578
00:27:50,860 --> 00:27:50,040
from the beginning and I'll say it again

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00:27:53,150 --> 00:27:50,870
right now

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00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:53,160
everything goes to the center of the

581
00:27:57,380 --> 00:27:55,170
table all chips are in we listen

582
00:28:00,410 --> 00:27:57,390
everybody everybody's approach not

583
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:00,420
everybody is right not everybody in fact

584
00:28:05,270 --> 00:28:02,610
most of us are wrong about what's going

585
00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:05,280
on we don't know I haven't exactly any

586
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:08,340
any time you know I'm introduced as an

587
00:28:12,170 --> 00:28:10,260
expert it's like how do you how you an

588
00:28:16,250 --> 00:28:12,180
expert on something that shows a mystery

589
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:16,260
that remains unexplained and as a result

590
00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:17,970
there are no disciplines and that's one

591
00:28:23,150 --> 00:28:20,670
of the reasons that at least back when

592
00:28:25,550 --> 00:28:23,160
there was an official government you

593
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:25,560
know air force investigation we all

594
00:28:29,330 --> 00:28:28,110
could take sides we all knew you know

595
00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:29,340
what the playing field what the

596
00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:32,100
boundaries were and and you know since

597
00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:34,020
that always disbanded I think that was

598
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:36,600
part of their philosophy that we would

599
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:38,970
become like scattered sheep and just

600
00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:41,970
everybody you know able to latch on or

601
00:28:47,180 --> 00:28:44,580
whatever they wanted to believe here we

602
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:47,190
have an opportunity that once again we

603
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:50,090
can establish as far as some specific

604
00:28:55,220 --> 00:28:53,610
parameters that this is the focus this

605
00:28:57,770 --> 00:28:55,230
is the direction we're going to go in

606
00:29:00,320 --> 00:28:57,780
and let's see what we can shake loose

607
00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:00,330
thank you so much Don we'll see you

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00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:03,660
Tuesday here in Los Angeles at you parse

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00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:06,360
and of course Wednesday evening done at

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Orange County

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MUFON Don bring your hairspray do me

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00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:12,930
that favor thank you so much my friend

613
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:15,090
thanks Jimmy you're a great friend thank

614
00:29:18,410 --> 00:29:16,530
you for the opportunity she ate it have

615
00:29:21,020 --> 00:29:18,420
a safe flight up the great work thank

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00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:21,030
you thanks I'm done Don Schmidt

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everybody Tuesday night at you pars here

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in Studio City Wednesday night Orange

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County MUFON all right I'm gonna take a

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00:29:33,630 --> 00:29:30,450
quick break and I'll be right back with

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x-man John D'Souza stay right there

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calm John D'Souza was an FBI special

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agent working for counterterrorism and

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violent crimes for over 25 years he was

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also an attorney and maintained a

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top-secret security clearance during his

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time at the United States government

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known as the X Man he collected the

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true-life

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X files that he shares in his books and

710
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now his newest book clear hearers

711
00:34:38,849 --> 00:34:36,070
tonight we're gonna discuss his career

712
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in the FBI real ET evidence contact

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disclosure and his new book clear hears

714
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and the subject of this book is an eye

715
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opener and we're gonna be discussing

716
00:34:51,659 --> 00:34:50,200
that all night long very excited to

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always have John de souza on the show

718
00:34:56,430 --> 00:34:54,580
with us John how are you man I am great

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Jimmy it's great to be back on here with

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you and fade to black it's again thank

721
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:01,720
you John thank you so much for that but

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00:35:06,810 --> 00:35:04,510
do you still have the ability to pull

723
00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:06,820
people over can he like pull somebody do

724
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:10,420
you look like you know a cop I don't

725
00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:13,599
think so and even if I had that ability

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00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:16,150
I don't think I'd like to do that looks

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like a lot of work and I don't know just

728
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doesn't look like it's worth my while

729
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:22,570
it's so funny because when you're

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hanging out in public you're not you're

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an intimidating guy you're big you're

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tall dark right you look that's me yeah

733
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:34,450
you look official right you've got that

734
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:36,970
aura about you and if you really wanted

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to put the pressure on somebody you

736
00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:41,380
could okay I know that if find any

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00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:43,190
issues at a bar and you

738
00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:44,990
there I would just get louder and more

739
00:35:48,339 --> 00:35:46,670
belligerent because I knew you'd have my

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back there you go

741
00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:51,109
absolutely to me would you say man I

742
00:35:55,329 --> 00:35:52,790
didn't say anything but have you seen my

743
00:35:59,680 --> 00:35:55,339
buddy sitting next to me I can say

744
00:36:02,470 --> 00:35:59,690
whatever I want John John John

745
00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:02,480
today was before we're gonna get to the

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book and the book is extraordinary and

747
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:09,530
extraordinary extraordinary and the

748
00:36:14,109 --> 00:36:11,810
subject of the book is one that I think

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that anybody that after this interview

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00:36:18,849 --> 00:36:16,010
is going to go want to buy it for sure

751
00:36:22,780 --> 00:36:18,859
and and read it but they're gonna relate

752
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:22,790
to it too because I did and we always

753
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:24,770
want I don't want to get to it yet right

754
00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:26,960
you know what I'm talking about and

755
00:36:33,579 --> 00:36:29,150
we've always we've always wondered about

756
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:33,589
that you know I have a friend before we

757
00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:36,170
get to the book his website are you

758
00:36:39,550 --> 00:36:37,220
ready I'm gonna tell you what his

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00:36:43,630 --> 00:36:39,560
website is everybody's gonna go to it I

760
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:43,640
can't say it oh no it's something like

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00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:45,530
I'm gonna change it around a little bit

762
00:36:52,690 --> 00:36:47,990
but it's something like the voices in my

763
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:52,700
head calm it's something like that all

764
00:36:57,809 --> 00:36:54,770
right well we'll get to that in a second

765
00:37:00,400 --> 00:36:57,819
today was a pretty extraordinary day for

766
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:00,410
ufology and for those that have been

767
00:37:06,910 --> 00:37:03,770
begging for disclosure and and Tom

768
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:06,920
DeLonge took the stage today did a

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livestream this morning at 9:00 a.m.

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00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:14,150
from Seattle and I would say that

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00:37:20,260 --> 00:37:17,359
everybody that is part of ufology all

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the leading authors and and researchers

773
00:37:24,569 --> 00:37:22,069
and names out there they were all dialed

774
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:24,579
in I was watching the comments build up

775
00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:27,650
on the Facebook page where it was being

776
00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:30,430
broadcast from and other areas too

777
00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:33,260
everybody was there I saw the names I

778
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:38,630
saw the people commenting you okay what

779
00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:40,310
did you think let me just get your raw

780
00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:44,950
takeaway well I watched the entire thing

781
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:46,900
and watched it from beginning the end

782
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:50,050
and I my first impression is you know

783
00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:52,090
studying he's always studying body

784
00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:55,030
language and cadence of speech and how

785
00:37:59,820 --> 00:37:57,070
people talk and the things that they say

786
00:38:01,230 --> 00:37:59,830
and how they say it and there's there's

787
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:01,240
no question that Tom's along as a

788
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:04,450
sincere absolutely sincere devoted

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00:38:08,730 --> 00:38:07,420
individual in these areas and he's

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00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:08,740
absolutely

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00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:13,690
he's just he's a real believer in these

792
00:38:20,430 --> 00:38:17,140
in these areas in the reality of UFOs of

793
00:38:22,380 --> 00:38:20,440
alien visitors and alien tech as well so

794
00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:22,390
there's no there's no doubt of that in

795
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:24,550
my mind and after seeing this this

796
00:38:29,580 --> 00:38:27,010
speech as well you can tell you can tell

797
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:29,590
the real sincerity this guy has so

798
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:31,330
there's no there's no question of that

799
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:34,950
now having said that I can tell you

800
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:37,780
since I'm assuming most of your audience

801
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:40,690
saw this saw this live video stream as

802
00:38:46,290 --> 00:38:43,570
well because it was such a big deal now

803
00:38:49,770 --> 00:38:46,300
having said that I have my own personal

804
00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:49,780
prejudices from my long career in

805
00:38:56,130 --> 00:38:51,790
national security of the United States

806
00:38:59,370 --> 00:38:56,140
and also as a as a Street agent FBI

807
00:39:02,220 --> 00:38:59,380
agent industry too was never there was

808
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:02,230
never a supervisor never was in the

809
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:05,530
upper offices of government and very

810
00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:07,210
much I was very conscious about avoiding

811
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:10,750
that so when I see these guys who are up

812
00:39:16,830 --> 00:39:14,050
there with him and who he's he's really

813
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:16,840
bragging about these these guys were not

814
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:20,290
we're not like CIA agents they were not

815
00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:22,930
guys on the street they were like high

816
00:39:29,130 --> 00:39:26,140
officials in DoD and Department of

817
00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:29,140
Defense and secretary at Secretary of

818
00:39:35,370 --> 00:39:33,070
Defense at at the CIA and at Department

819
00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:35,380
of Defense and others in other areas of

820
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:39,630
government in skunkworks at at the

821
00:39:46,290 --> 00:39:42,970
secret contractor who does all the

822
00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:46,300
secret contracts these were the guys

823
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:49,390
that during my career I tried to avoid

824
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:51,490
like the plague

825
00:39:57,570 --> 00:39:54,430
because these were guys who usually were

826
00:39:59,690 --> 00:39:57,580
not working to disclose things to the

827
00:40:03,840 --> 00:39:59,700
American people they were usually not

828
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:03,850
and so when I see them in this video

829
00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:06,970
commercial that touts all of their all

830
00:40:11,609 --> 00:40:09,100
of their credentials and some of these

831
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:11,619
guys in some cases they've only left

832
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:13,930
supposedly left their government posts

833
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:16,480
like just like days ago right rice

834
00:40:20,580 --> 00:40:18,730
that's so so I don't know it just

835
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:20,590
doesn't give me a good feeling because

836
00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:23,260
these guys and the positions that they

837
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:26,320
held in government I mean like I said I

838
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:28,270
was just always just a street

839
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:31,690
investigator Street agent and the

840
00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:33,760
position that these guys held and in the

841
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:36,340
position and the organizations that they

842
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:40,450
were in like CIA dia Department of

843
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:44,890
Defense Intelligence and Secretary of

844
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Defense I mean they were not the ones I

845
00:40:52,890 --> 00:40:49,930
would have picked to inspire confidence

846
00:40:56,250 --> 00:40:52,900
in disclosure to the American people

847
00:40:58,500 --> 00:40:56,260
that's just my initial impression as far

848
00:41:02,900 --> 00:40:58,510
as that goes do you think or do you

849
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:02,910
think they disclosed anything today

850
00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:05,770
well I took notes as I went through that

851
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:08,470
video mm-hmm and one of the things I saw

852
00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:11,200
is that one of the things I saw is of

853
00:41:17,370 --> 00:41:14,200
course Tom DeLonge himself was able to

854
00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:17,380
speak pretty much off-the-cuff you know

855
00:41:22,890 --> 00:41:19,600
with his own but everybody else seemed

856
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:22,900
to be using a teleprompter also it was

857
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:25,150
an empty theater with just you know the

858
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:28,330
camera pointed and that they made the

859
00:41:37,830 --> 00:41:35,200
the just speech in and I just didn't it

860
00:41:40,650 --> 00:41:37,840
seemed to be a message that seemed to be

861
00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:40,660
kind of schizophrenic because the

862
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:44,020
overall message was there's gonna be

863
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:46,000
revolutionary technology as a matter of

864
00:41:51,330 --> 00:41:48,760
fact that phrase was used many times by

865
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:51,340
many people but then there was also a

866
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:54,010
lot of talk about entertainment that

867
00:41:59,609 --> 00:41:56,530
this is going to be entertainment so

868
00:42:01,680 --> 00:41:59,619
those two those two areas are like I

869
00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:01,690
have nothing to do with each other

870
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,460
there so it just makes me believe well

871
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,560
which is it are they going to be

872
00:42:13,070 --> 00:42:10,480
revealing some revolutionary technology

873
00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:13,080
is it's going to be a serious type of

874
00:42:19,590 --> 00:42:16,750
type of thing here that's gonna disclose

875
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:19,600
some alien tech some anti grass and free

876
00:42:24,750 --> 00:42:22,810
energy I mean or is it gonna be

877
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:24,760
torez it just entertainment see that's

878
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:28,330
that's the biggest fault in the language

879
00:42:34,110 --> 00:42:29,920
that I found throughout the whole

880
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:34,120
presentation well I have the offering

881
00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:36,970
right I've got the entire document here

882
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:40,750
the SEC filing and so there they are

883
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:43,690
doing three different divisions in the

884
00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:46,090
company they're they have a technology

885
00:42:53,550 --> 00:42:49,960
division and a science division and

886
00:42:57,540 --> 00:42:53,560
another one that is entertainment for

887
00:42:59,820 --> 00:42:57,550
books movies multimedia to present all

888
00:43:02,490 --> 00:42:59,830
of the information and so that's the

889
00:43:05,010 --> 00:43:02,500
three-pronged approach that they want to

890
00:43:06,420 --> 00:43:05,020
take what I did find interesting if that

891
00:43:08,610 --> 00:43:06,430
answers your question why they were

892
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:08,620
always referring back to entertainment

893
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:10,960
because it's a very specifically

894
00:43:16,650 --> 00:43:14,290
detailed in this SEC filing as you can

895
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:16,660
imagine the legalese here is just

896
00:43:22,530 --> 00:43:17,920
ridiculous right

897
00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:22,540
it's um it's I think it's oh it's only

898
00:43:25,830 --> 00:43:25,000
17 paint no it can't be it's got to be

899
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:25,840
more than that

900
00:43:32,670 --> 00:43:30,310
I'm seeing the page numbers here but but

901
00:43:35,970 --> 00:43:32,680
anyway going through oh yeah here it is

902
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:35,980
it's 63 pages whoa and why do they need

903
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:38,290
an SEC filing well because they're it's

904
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:41,170
a stock offering okay so it's a stock

905
00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:43,930
offering and you can purchase stock back

906
00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:46,360
into the company a minimum of two

907
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:48,100
hundred dollars at five dollars a share

908
00:43:55,050 --> 00:43:52,750
and so what does that get you uh two

909
00:43:57,540 --> 00:43:55,060
hundred five dollars a share would set

910
00:44:00,360 --> 00:43:57,550
40 shares can I get a quarter of a share

911
00:44:02,970 --> 00:44:00,370
I don't work that way no it doesn't

912
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:02,980
quite work that way but you could you

913
00:44:07,530 --> 00:44:06,010
know get some buddies together and get

914
00:44:10,650 --> 00:44:07,540
three more buddies and you guys can all

915
00:44:13,890 --> 00:44:10,660
do it so but the breakdown and what

916
00:44:14,769 --> 00:44:13,900
they've done here in a public way is is

917
00:44:18,789 --> 00:44:14,779
what is

918
00:44:21,759 --> 00:44:18,799
interesting as opposed to any other UFO

919
00:44:23,979 --> 00:44:21,769
group or science group that studies

920
00:44:24,549 --> 00:44:23,989
ufology or the supernatural or anything

921
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:24,559
like that

922
00:44:30,009 --> 00:44:27,529
that's all private right and you know

923
00:44:32,799 --> 00:44:30,019
you're making donations or you're buying

924
00:44:34,569 --> 00:44:32,809
a membership or whatever it is but that

925
00:44:37,659 --> 00:44:34,579
money there's no accountability there

926
00:44:42,609 --> 00:44:37,669
this is different this is a public stock

927
00:44:43,929 --> 00:44:42,619
offering so filed with the SEC and so

928
00:44:46,149 --> 00:44:43,939
you've got everything that goes along

929
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:46,159
with that full disclosure you can vote

930
00:44:51,130 --> 00:44:47,839
all right that's the thing you're a

931
00:44:52,589 --> 00:44:51,140
shareholder now you can vote and having

932
00:44:55,059 --> 00:44:52,599
everything out there in the public

933
00:44:58,179 --> 00:44:55,069
that's a bit different because now you

934
00:45:01,029 --> 00:44:58,189
know what you know all of the technology

935
00:45:04,959 --> 00:45:01,039
is disclosed what they are working on is

936
00:45:06,849 --> 00:45:04,969
disclosed the the part that so that's

937
00:45:08,469 --> 00:45:06,859
that's that side and that's why they

938
00:45:11,319 --> 00:45:08,479
were talking about those three divisions

939
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:11,329
today and who they brought up to speak

940
00:45:21,849 --> 00:45:17,209
now that being said to to do it like

941
00:45:25,779 --> 00:45:21,859
this and to put it out front what I want

942
00:45:29,649 --> 00:45:25,789
to know is and what it's been alluded to

943
00:45:34,479 --> 00:45:29,659
okay the UFO question has been alluded

944
00:45:37,059 --> 00:45:34,489
to what what is it that they know what

945
00:45:39,999 --> 00:45:37,069
that's that's the thing here you know

946
00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:40,009
what is it I do you have to be a

947
00:45:43,509 --> 00:45:41,749
shareholder to get access to this

948
00:45:45,729 --> 00:45:43,519
private information right or are you

949
00:45:49,839 --> 00:45:45,739
gonna be told certain things I don't

950
00:45:51,309 --> 00:45:49,849
know they talked about UFOs today they

951
00:45:53,859 --> 00:45:51,319
talked about the Nimitz and that

952
00:45:56,589 --> 00:45:53,869
extraordinary incident in 2004

953
00:46:01,630 --> 00:45:56,599
okay I'm hip to all of that but it

954
00:46:05,019 --> 00:46:01,640
wasn't what they didn't say today and if

955
00:46:06,969 --> 00:46:05,029
anybody from the company is listening or

956
00:46:09,669 --> 00:46:06,979
if tom is listening I'm sure Peter Levin

957
00:46:12,329 --> 00:46:09,679
de is listening and and others if they

958
00:46:16,299 --> 00:46:12,339
would have stepped up and said okay this

959
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:16,309
is what we do know here is here is a

960
00:46:23,140 --> 00:46:19,849
piece of evidence boom and ran a

961
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:23,150
videotape right and and and backed it up

962
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:24,650
and said okay this is what the

963
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,390
government has been sitting on but that

964
00:46:33,610 --> 00:46:28,640
did show drawings I they what

965
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:33,620
well he said in my notes I see here one

966
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:35,210
of the things that stood out as he said

967
00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:37,970
/ they need to long said they need to

968
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:40,460
set up a perpetual funding machine and

969
00:46:45,610 --> 00:46:43,130
then I got the quote he said

970
00:46:47,410 --> 00:46:45,620
unimaginable technology and he showed

971
00:46:49,150 --> 00:46:47,420
her drawing something I don't know what

972
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:49,160
that was and then he says this

973
00:46:53,620 --> 00:46:51,410
impossible thing and another drawing

974
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:53,630
again something that I couldn't tell

975
00:46:58,300 --> 00:46:55,370
what it was so yeah there should have

976
00:47:01,000 --> 00:46:58,310
been a I guess a video demo because this

977
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:01,010
is speculative technology that they're

978
00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:03,290
talking about right there should have

979
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:07,190
been some kind of video demo of what

980
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:08,690
they're what they have but they actually

981
00:47:13,870 --> 00:47:11,450
right it was not there well I know that

982
00:47:16,330 --> 00:47:13,880
some were saying today and you know if

983
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:16,340
this this presentation is going to get

984
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:17,930
the bejesus

985
00:47:21,970 --> 00:47:19,730
you know critiqued out of it over the

986
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:21,980
next week or so in social media and the

987
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:28,000
UFO circles but the the fact that most

988
00:47:33,850 --> 00:47:31,520
most people that watched the

989
00:47:36,820 --> 00:47:33,860
presentation today were expecting

990
00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:36,830
something okay to have the big

991
00:47:45,130 --> 00:47:41,750
announcement be the formation of a

992
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:45,140
corporation and sock and stock to be

993
00:47:53,110 --> 00:47:48,110
sold to the public if that was the big

994
00:47:55,330 --> 00:47:53,120
announcement then if nobody got what

995
00:47:58,180 --> 00:47:55,340
they expected you know if that was the

996
00:48:00,910 --> 00:47:58,190
big announcement as opposed to the big

997
00:48:03,370 --> 00:48:00,920
announcement being okay here is a piece

998
00:48:05,740 --> 00:48:03,380
of data here it is and because of this

999
00:48:07,810 --> 00:48:05,750
we are forming this corporation to move

1000
00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:07,820
forward this is some of the information

1001
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:11,270
that we have and we are going public

1002
00:48:17,470 --> 00:48:14,770
with this secret stuff the thing is is

1003
00:48:20,650 --> 00:48:17,480
the the oaths and the security

1004
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:20,660
clearances that must be on some of these

1005
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:24,290
guys current you know they exist for 10

1006
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:25,850
years after your employment right I

1007
00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:30,770
believe I could be wrong but know my

1008
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:33,950
mind don't as far as the actual top

1009
00:48:38,410 --> 00:48:35,930
secret clearance and so forth that it

1010
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:38,420
that goes by increments of five years

1011
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,370
five years so okay so if yours expire

1012
00:48:45,380 --> 00:48:43,440
before you left the organization then

1013
00:48:47,180 --> 00:48:45,390
it's just not renewed so most of them

1014
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:47,190
won't be under their actual the actual

1015
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,570
but they have of course they have

1016
00:48:54,860 --> 00:48:50,640
obligations on secrecy for certain

1017
00:48:56,090 --> 00:48:54,870
things but my my main point is I don't

1018
00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:56,100
understa day we're trying to blow us

1019
00:49:01,280 --> 00:48:58,110
over blow us away with the credentials

1020
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:01,290
of these guys and for me it just did the

1021
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:04,260
opposite I mean I just don't see a guy

1022
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:05,850
who was in the director who was in

1023
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:07,710
charge of the Directorate intelligence

1024
00:49:15,050 --> 00:49:12,570
of the CIA as somebody who has been out

1025
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:15,060
there informing the American people of

1026
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:16,800
things that they need to know that's I

1027
00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:19,170
just don't see that and it doesn't give

1028
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:21,540
me a warm feeling inside some of the

1029
00:49:27,170 --> 00:49:24,690
credentials of these guys and you know

1030
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:27,180
Tom disagrees he felt that these

1031
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,610
credentials on these guys were

1032
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:30,720
unbelievable and are exactly what's

1033
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:34,050
needed for our disclosure but I disagree

1034
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:35,850
with that I just don't see it at all

1035
00:49:44,060 --> 00:49:42,210
well when you have somebody like I'm

1036
00:49:46,610 --> 00:49:44,070
gonna speak in general terms here I

1037
00:49:51,110 --> 00:49:46,620
don't want to get to specifics but if

1038
00:49:53,630 --> 00:49:51,120
you have somebody I'm man you know

1039
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:53,640
almost feel like saying names if you

1040
00:50:02,540 --> 00:49:58,290
have somebody involved layer that let's

1041
00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:02,550
say worked for NASA or JPL that had

1042
00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:06,750
specific information about contact with

1043
00:50:12,740 --> 00:50:09,420
et that they are here now that they have

1044
00:50:14,930 --> 00:50:12,750
visited in the past and and and there's

1045
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:14,940
you know that they've had access to that

1046
00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:19,050
information surely even five years after

1047
00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:21,540
you left NASA you would not be able to

1048
00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:23,550
you wouldn't be allowed to talk about

1049
00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:26,700
that I mean that I would say that that's

1050
00:50:33,860 --> 00:50:30,030
a lifetime ban on flapping the jaw I

1051
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:33,870
don't think I would think yeah not not

1052
00:50:40,610 --> 00:50:35,850
directly you can't but there are ways

1053
00:50:42,620 --> 00:50:40,620
that they can do that and so it depends

1054
00:50:45,020 --> 00:50:42,630
on how determined they are to talk about

1055
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:45,030
that sort of thing because we saw we saw

1056
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:48,690
our scientist Boyd who was able to talk

1057
00:50:53,539 --> 00:50:51,089
about what his experiences were

1058
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:53,549
with the Roswell technology and stuff

1059
00:50:59,660 --> 00:50:56,729
that he that he was privy to after of

1060
00:51:02,059 --> 00:50:59,670
course after he retired from skunk works

1061
00:51:04,999 --> 00:51:02,069
and was able to I was able to reveal

1062
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:05,009
things kind of indirectly as well right

1063
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:05,910
right right

1064
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:09,930
if if so what you're saying and I just

1065
00:51:14,569 --> 00:51:11,609
want to understand here so it's a

1066
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:14,579
five-year increments of five so at the

1067
00:51:18,019 --> 00:51:16,170
end of five they could extend it for

1068
00:51:20,089 --> 00:51:18,029
five more years if they think that it's

1069
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:20,099
important enough or if you're not

1070
00:51:24,739 --> 00:51:21,359
leaving if you're leaving the

1071
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:24,749
organization then your five-year it goes

1072
00:51:28,609 --> 00:51:27,119
by five years your clearances so they

1073
00:51:30,109 --> 00:51:28,619
would just allow it to expire and then

1074
00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:30,119
you don't have here the top-secret

1075
00:51:34,279 --> 00:51:32,430
clearance anymore in your like in your

1076
00:51:37,729 --> 00:51:34,289
last year when you're leaving and in

1077
00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:37,739
your case what was it - spired like a

1078
00:51:43,759 --> 00:51:42,359
year before I left in 2013 so it was I

1079
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:43,769
saw I didn't renew it

1080
00:51:48,170 --> 00:51:46,049
I didn't renew it and so I was I was

1081
00:51:51,319 --> 00:51:48,180
clear of my my top-secret security

1082
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:51,329
clearance so you didn't have your last

1083
00:51:56,749 --> 00:51:53,609
year with the FBI you didn't even have a

1084
00:51:58,579 --> 00:51:56,759
security clearance oh well you have it

1085
00:52:01,519 --> 00:51:58,589
but it's always in process in other

1086
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:01,529
words the background for it to renew it

1087
00:52:06,410 --> 00:52:04,559
goes on it goes on for almost a year it

1088
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:06,420
goes on for almost a year so during that

1089
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:09,690
time I had I retired so there was no

1090
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:13,200
need to pursue the renewal of my secret

1091
00:52:17,509 --> 00:52:16,130
security clearance anymore interesting

1092
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:17,519
hmm

1093
00:52:25,969 --> 00:52:21,920
well now what about the other general

1094
00:52:27,799 --> 00:52:25,979
feeling is this and I've seen enough

1095
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:27,809
comments about this today that I know

1096
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:30,690
that this is a concern for a vast amount

1097
00:52:37,630 --> 00:52:34,170
of our community here is there a

1098
00:52:40,819 --> 00:52:37,640
possibility that when you have all X

1099
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:40,829
government dudes right that time you

1100
00:52:46,940 --> 00:52:44,880
know which is what you are touting is

1101
00:52:51,799 --> 00:52:46,950
there a chance here that this could be

1102
00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:51,809
just a massive disinfo blunderbuss yes

1103
00:52:56,930 --> 00:52:53,940
there is a chance of that that's that's

1104
00:52:59,269 --> 00:52:56,940
a chance that i sees it as a very real

1105
00:53:00,440 --> 00:52:59,279
chance and that's one of the reasons

1106
00:53:03,740 --> 00:53:00,450
that

1107
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:03,750
this this these particular officials

1108
00:53:09,890 --> 00:53:06,710
former officials they just they just

1109
00:53:12,380 --> 00:53:09,900
don't give me a good feeling because of

1110
00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:12,390
who they were and the positions that

1111
00:53:18,170 --> 00:53:16,200
they held so I just don't you know but

1112
00:53:20,089 --> 00:53:18,180
people can change of course people can

1113
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:20,099
change they can have a change of heart

1114
00:53:24,620 --> 00:53:22,770
and you know like for instance what you

1115
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:24,630
were saying before like if they came

1116
00:53:29,569 --> 00:53:27,660
across the piece of alien tech that just

1117
00:53:32,540 --> 00:53:29,579
made them thing you know what I am going

1118
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:32,550
to completely go against whatever the

1119
00:53:36,349 --> 00:53:34,710
CIA has told me in the past and I'm

1120
00:53:39,020 --> 00:53:36,359
going to reveal to the American people

1121
00:53:41,210 --> 00:53:39,030
over but if that had been the case

1122
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:41,220
they should have demonstrated something

1123
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:44,310
related to that today yeah it should've

1124
00:53:51,650 --> 00:53:49,050
been shown yeah and the a couple of well

1125
00:53:54,290 --> 00:53:51,660
the one I think his name is a Jim Jim

1126
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:54,300
Jim even I could be wrong but he was

1127
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:00,480
with the CIA until like 2007 2008 when

1128
00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:03,359
you are at you were with the FBI but

1129
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:05,819
when you are with a three-letter

1130
00:54:10,609 --> 00:54:08,010
organization like that we talked about

1131
00:54:14,690 --> 00:54:10,619
compartmentalization quite a bit here

1132
00:54:17,809 --> 00:54:14,700
even in the CIA being you know exposed

1133
00:54:21,380 --> 00:54:17,819
to certain things whatever those secrets

1134
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:21,390
are you certainly don't know at all do

1135
00:54:28,540 --> 00:54:25,530
you think there was a that that Jim was

1136
00:54:30,890 --> 00:54:28,550
would be allowed to take alien

1137
00:54:34,190 --> 00:54:30,900
information that he was exposed to with

1138
00:54:36,890 --> 00:54:34,200
the CIA and just go and start working

1139
00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:36,900
for a public company talking about the

1140
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:38,819
information that he was exposed to at

1141
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:43,440
the CIA CIA about the alien question it

1142
00:54:48,829 --> 00:54:45,890
depends on what it is so for instance

1143
00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:48,839
and I can just tell you because if he

1144
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:51,630
was a field officer a field officer

1145
00:54:54,410 --> 00:54:53,250
which I don't believe this guy was I

1146
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:54,420
think he was like a high official of

1147
00:54:59,599 --> 00:54:56,730
some kind but if he was if he was a

1148
00:55:03,230 --> 00:54:59,609
field operator then you could come

1149
00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:03,240
across data that has to do with alien

1150
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:07,140
visitors or alien UFOs and you can just

1151
00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:09,599
come across data that could be revealed

1152
00:55:13,009 --> 00:55:12,270
at a later time because it just it's not

1153
00:55:16,669 --> 00:55:13,019
connect

1154
00:55:18,949 --> 00:55:16,679
to anything that's that's classified and

1155
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:18,959
that could be and that could be revealed

1156
00:55:23,929 --> 00:55:20,729
there are ways that that sort of data

1157
00:55:26,149 --> 00:55:23,939
can just come to a person who's a field

1158
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:26,159
operator and just be and just be

1159
00:55:30,949 --> 00:55:29,369
revealed at a later time but but uh

1160
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:30,959
somebody who's a high officials not

1161
00:55:35,329 --> 00:55:33,119
gonna have contact it's not gonna have

1162
00:55:38,389 --> 00:55:35,339
contact in the field to that sort of

1163
00:55:40,909 --> 00:55:38,399
thing that's why you know I can come

1164
00:55:43,699 --> 00:55:40,919
into contact with all kinds of data that

1165
00:55:45,469 --> 00:55:43,709
as an FBI agents of FBI special agent I

1166
00:55:48,469 --> 00:55:45,479
can come into contact with all kinds of

1167
00:55:51,499 --> 00:55:48,479
data that comes to me that is not

1168
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:51,509
related to a classified matter and that

1169
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:52,890
sort of thing happens all the time

1170
00:56:01,309 --> 00:55:56,609
and that's why the archives of the of

1171
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:01,319
the FBI at vault on fbi.gov are filled

1172
00:56:09,949 --> 00:56:06,529
with UFO data and alien visit data and

1173
00:56:11,539 --> 00:56:09,959
cattle mutilations data that's uh that's

1174
00:56:15,019 --> 00:56:11,549
filled the archives that are

1175
00:56:16,579 --> 00:56:15,029
Declassified in the in that archive and

1176
00:56:18,019 --> 00:56:16,589
anybody can look those up and the reason

1177
00:56:20,359 --> 00:56:18,029
that those are because there's all kinds

1178
00:56:23,449 --> 00:56:20,369
of data that's related to those types of

1179
00:56:25,249 --> 00:56:23,459
cases that can be can be revealed to

1180
00:56:28,399 --> 00:56:25,259
people and that stuff is out there but

1181
00:56:31,129 --> 00:56:28,409
it's available only at the field level

1182
00:56:33,739 --> 00:56:31,139
at the level of investigations or

1183
00:56:36,699 --> 00:56:33,749
queries in the field that's what I'm

1184
00:56:40,099 --> 00:56:36,709
saying and and this is this is my

1185
00:56:41,899 --> 00:56:40,109
positive spin on it my take on it and

1186
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:41,909
I've said this with anything whether

1187
00:56:47,659 --> 00:56:44,249
it's you know SETI in the SETI program

1188
00:56:49,609 --> 00:56:47,669
or or any any programs that are out

1189
00:56:53,299 --> 00:56:49,619
there trying to get these questions

1190
00:56:56,899 --> 00:56:53,309
answered it we have to do this the

1191
00:56:59,029 --> 00:56:56,909
alternative of not doing it it then we

1192
00:57:02,120 --> 00:56:59,039
don't know anything the alternative of

1193
00:57:05,509 --> 00:57:02,130
DeLonge not pushing this forward we have

1194
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:05,519
nothing right so right that's that's

1195
00:57:10,489 --> 00:57:08,130
that's my take on it yeah and it's a

1196
00:57:13,699 --> 00:57:10,499
positive thing that's long brings as a

1197
00:57:16,189 --> 00:57:13,709
as a mainstream star who's very popular

1198
00:57:18,229 --> 00:57:16,199
popularly known among the mainstream is

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00:57:20,030 --> 00:57:18,239
bringing these topics into the

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00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:20,040
mainstream consciousness

1201
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:21,750
that people who would never otherwise

1202
00:57:26,450 --> 00:57:24,090
look at these things at all are actually

1203
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:26,460
taking the time to look at these topics

1204
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,890
and say hey this stuff could be real

1205
00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:31,200
absolutely let's take a break right here

1206
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:33,720
our guest tonight John D'Souza when we

1207
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:35,250
come back we're gonna be talking about

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00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:37,890
his new book clear here's the subject

1209
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:39,660
and what this book is about is an

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00:57:45,110 --> 00:57:42,570
eye-opener and it's one that I assure

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00:57:47,060 --> 00:57:45,120
you you've wondered about yourself we're

1212
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:47,070
gonna discuss all of that in depth and

1213
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:49,530
you know it's John so that means we're

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00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:51,270
gonna probably go in about eight million

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00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:53,970
different directions more with John

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00:57:57,870 --> 00:57:55,890
D'Souza right after this short break

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this is fade to black

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this is fade to black with Jimmy church

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all right welcome back fade to black

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coming OCB Church follow me on twitter

1283
01:01:57,150 --> 01:01:52,799
@jj do you follow John Jonathan just

1284
01:01:59,279 --> 01:01:57,160
says John 10 you know he's got a he's

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got a strange Twitter handle we'll get

1286
01:02:02,699 --> 01:02:01,719
to that in just a second John what's

1287
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your Twitter handle

1288
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oh my Twitter I knew you were gonna ask

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me that and I don't have it here hey I

1290
01:02:14,309 --> 01:02:09,269
can't remember it either

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01:02:16,890 --> 01:02:14,319
it's a is it John Tama books yes John

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Tama books okay yeah Twitter and I need

1293
01:02:20,909 --> 01:02:18,789
more followers Jimmy okay well there you

1294
01:02:22,709 --> 01:02:20,919
go everybody go follow John D'Souza John

1295
01:02:26,819 --> 01:02:22,719
temple books will put it up there we'll

1296
01:02:31,620 --> 01:02:26,829
get you some followers now the book is

1297
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:31,630
called clear hearers so let's actually

1298
01:02:36,209 --> 01:02:33,609
let's start here for the audience that

1299
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:36,219
has never heard of a clear hearer before

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what is a clear hearer a clear here is

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01:02:47,609 --> 01:02:44,109
an individual that hears that sorry

1302
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:47,619
perceives a clear voice of authority

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01:02:53,249 --> 01:02:50,380
that comes to them during times of

1304
01:02:56,519 --> 01:02:53,259
crisis that helps them that uplifts them

1305
01:02:58,919 --> 01:02:56,529
sometimes saves their lives and it is a

1306
01:03:02,039 --> 01:02:58,929
it's a pretty it's a common phenomena

1307
01:03:05,189 --> 01:03:02,049
it's something that is back in ancient

1308
01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:05,199
history it's it's actually started with

1309
01:03:10,259 --> 01:03:08,079
Joan of Arc the teenager who saved

1310
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:10,269
France when it was about to go out of

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01:03:17,399 --> 01:03:14,650
existence in the 1400s and then it was

1312
01:03:22,890 --> 01:03:17,409
called clairaudience it was basically a

1313
01:03:24,989 --> 01:03:22,900
French word so this is pretty much I'm

1314
01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:24,999
dusting off an area of the paranormal

1315
01:03:32,399 --> 01:03:28,809
that really hasn't been in use in a long

1316
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:32,409
long time and hasn't been hasn't been

1317
01:03:38,059 --> 01:03:35,169
known for a very long time and clear

1318
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:38,069
hairs is just a English translation of

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01:03:43,949 --> 01:03:41,650
clairaudience which is the term for the

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individual that hears that voice that

1321
01:03:48,359 --> 01:03:46,089
perceives that voice of authority that

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01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:48,369
comes to them during times of crisis

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01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:53,169
what about Moses yes Moses who spoke

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with God

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so that is something that was allocated

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to that historically now if you want to

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know people who actually were who

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actually saw themselves as clear heroes

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I can tell you Joan of Arc of course

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said that she she attributed the voice

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that would come to her and tell her what

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she had to do for France to save France

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she attributed that to the voice of

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Mother Mary being the voice of Mother

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Mary right also Socrates Socrates had a

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very clear voice that would come to him

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during times when he needed to make

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difficult decisions and he called it his

1339
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:35,750
Damon his Damon voice and that spelled e

1340
01:04:41,770 --> 01:04:40,400
a I am like Mary oh and like Nancy Damon

1341
01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:41,780
voice and it was one of the reasons that

1342
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:44,630
he got in trouble with the Athenian

1343
01:04:49,060 --> 01:04:46,970
government there's been many philip k

1344
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:49,070
dick for the great writer the great

1345
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:51,530
visionary writer yep he also he also was

1346
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:54,770
a historical figure that uh had a clear

1347
01:04:59,590 --> 01:04:57,200
voice that would come to him and he had

1348
01:05:01,870 --> 01:04:59,600
a he had an exotic name for it as well

1349
01:05:04,540 --> 01:05:01,880
they would consult council him and help

1350
01:05:06,940 --> 01:05:04,550
him and help him to he would say avoid

1351
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:06,950
catastrophe and decisions that would be

1352
01:05:11,590 --> 01:05:09,050
bad for him so yeah this is something

1353
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:11,600
that has existed throughout history and

1354
01:05:18,550 --> 01:05:14,960
it was usually called clairaudience but

1355
01:05:21,670 --> 01:05:18,560
now I'm bringing a new new translation

1356
01:05:25,180 --> 01:05:21,680
of the word to popularize its use as

1357
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:25,190
clear hearing did you see I posted it

1358
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:29,090
the other day there's a really cool

1359
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:32,570
video of philip k dick at a conference

1360
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:39,490
in 1977 talking about parallel worlds

1361
01:05:44,850 --> 01:05:42,710
channeling down loads of information we

1362
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:44,860
could be living in a computer simulation

1363
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:48,530
this is an alternate reality have you

1364
01:05:54,610 --> 01:05:50,960
ever seen that that little presentation

1365
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:54,620
he does I've seen it many times over and

1366
01:05:59,110 --> 01:05:55,760
over again is that the most

1367
01:06:02,350 --> 01:05:59,120
bone-chilling view of the future like

1368
01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:02,360
ever right Wow yeah it's amazing and

1369
01:06:08,349 --> 01:06:05,180
yeah it's a little disconcerting but

1370
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:08,359
yeah philip k dick used to have the the

1371
01:06:12,940 --> 01:06:10,130
one voice that would come to him and he

1372
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:12,950
also had a young lady that he didn't

1373
01:06:17,740 --> 01:06:14,510
know what she was who would come and

1374
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:17,750
visit him and he had lots different

1375
01:06:24,339 --> 01:06:20,450
sources for his his visionary thinking

1376
01:06:26,289 --> 01:06:24,349
he's a special dude you know I you know

1377
01:06:29,289 --> 01:06:26,299
what I'm talking down to him calling him

1378
01:06:32,289 --> 01:06:29,299
a dude but man what a special dude yeah

1379
01:06:34,990 --> 01:06:32,299
I I can't I can't I can't stress enough

1380
01:06:38,620 --> 01:06:35,000
his view of the future how spot-on he

1381
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:38,630
was considering it was 40 years ago

1382
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:42,410
that's the first forty years ago and for

1383
01:06:49,059 --> 01:06:46,640
it to be exactly exactly word for word

1384
01:06:51,579 --> 01:06:49,069
what we are talking about today in

1385
01:06:54,460 --> 01:06:51,589
scientific circles in the supernatural

1386
01:06:57,010 --> 01:06:54,470
circles in the science fiction circles

1387
01:06:58,779 --> 01:06:57,020
right in the political circles it's

1388
01:07:02,680 --> 01:06:58,789
exactly what we're talking about today

1389
01:07:06,180 --> 01:07:02,690
and it was in 1977 and the audience was

1390
01:07:07,630 --> 01:07:06,190
in you know pretty much in shock

1391
01:07:10,809 --> 01:07:07,640
listening to him during that

1392
01:07:12,370 --> 01:07:10,819
presentation but you go back and just

1393
01:07:14,049 --> 01:07:12,380
stop and think about the world that we

1394
01:07:17,799 --> 01:07:14,059
live in today and the possibilities are

1395
01:07:20,950 --> 01:07:17,809
endless today but he was he was directly

1396
01:07:24,970 --> 01:07:20,960
talking about this 40 years ago the

1397
01:07:28,210 --> 01:07:24,980
reason why I bring up Moses oh and I

1398
01:07:32,740 --> 01:07:28,220
also wanted to bring up is is because so

1399
01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:32,750
many so many community leaders or

1400
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:35,839
religious leaders thousand years ago two

1401
01:07:39,819 --> 01:07:37,369
thousand years ago three thousand years

1402
01:07:43,450 --> 01:07:39,829
ago four thousand years ago would come

1403
01:07:46,990 --> 01:07:43,460
and say okay this is what we have to do

1404
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,000
because I was just told blah blah blah

1405
01:07:51,819 --> 01:07:49,520
blah blah right right you know we need

1406
01:07:54,519 --> 01:07:51,829
to harvest plants now right whatever

1407
01:07:58,029 --> 01:07:54,529
whatever it whatever it was

1408
01:08:01,690 --> 01:07:58,039
but do you think that it was the great

1409
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:01,700
voice that we've been attributing to God

1410
01:08:09,099 --> 01:08:06,049
or channelling or or maybe even illness

1411
01:08:11,650 --> 01:08:09,109
or sickness or schizophrenia like in the

1412
01:08:14,349 --> 01:08:11,660
case of Joan of Arc for instance well

1413
01:08:15,150 --> 01:08:14,359
Joan of Arc was definitely a clear error

1414
01:08:20,490 --> 01:08:15,160
she

1415
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:20,500
very clear voice of authority that would

1416
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:23,650
help her and advised her what to do and

1417
01:08:28,290 --> 01:08:25,330
what not to do and how she could say

1418
01:08:31,860 --> 01:08:28,300
France and I talked about that in my

1419
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:31,870
book and being a clear hair is very

1420
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:35,170
different from voice hearing voice

1421
01:08:44,310 --> 01:08:38,650
hearing is is basically people who are

1422
01:08:46,740 --> 01:08:44,320
opened up to confused voices of any sort

1423
01:08:50,430 --> 01:08:46,750
that are usually voices that are

1424
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:50,440
confusing that are hard to hear that are

1425
01:08:56,220 --> 01:08:53,290
this and are one of the symptoms of

1426
01:08:58,410 --> 01:08:56,230
medical conditions so yeah that's that's

1427
01:09:01,530 --> 01:08:58,420
voice hearing and that's very very

1428
01:09:03,330 --> 01:09:01,540
different from clear hearing because oh

1429
01:09:05,610 --> 01:09:03,340
and one of the things in my book when I

1430
01:09:08,790 --> 01:09:05,620
was able to get which is I was able to

1431
01:09:11,070 --> 01:09:08,800
get the great Jason quit to write the

1432
01:09:12,780 --> 01:09:11,080
foreword for my book and one of the

1433
01:09:15,150 --> 01:09:12,790
reasons I did that was because he has

1434
01:09:17,460 --> 01:09:15,160
actually experienced both he's

1435
01:09:20,250 --> 01:09:17,470
experienced voice hearing being a voice

1436
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:20,260
hearer and also being a clear hearer and

1437
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:22,000
that's what he's explained in the

1438
01:09:27,210 --> 01:09:24,610
foreword to my book he explains a when

1439
01:09:29,670 --> 01:09:27,220
he was a teenager he was given the wrong

1440
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:29,680
medicine some codeine during a minor

1441
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:31,330
surgical procedure and it opened the

1442
01:09:37,710 --> 01:09:34,510
gateways for this bunch of voices that

1443
01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:37,720
just started yelling at him and making

1444
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:40,270
all kinds of noise and he was and yet he

1445
01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:41,890
was not able to hear understand the

1446
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:44,440
words it wasn't really articulable for

1447
01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:47,050
him and it just went on he consulted

1448
01:09:50,490 --> 01:09:48,220
with his physician it was a terrible

1449
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:50,500
episode for him and then he consulted

1450
01:09:54,090 --> 01:09:52,090
his physician and physician saying okay

1451
01:09:56,460 --> 01:09:54,100
no more codeine ever again and they

1452
01:09:58,560 --> 01:09:56,470
cross it off his his list of admissible

1453
01:10:02,490 --> 01:09:58,570
and he never had another situation like

1454
01:10:05,370 --> 01:10:02,500
that ever again but many years later he

1455
01:10:07,770 --> 01:10:05,380
was started on his on his road to

1456
01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:07,780
becoming a great shamanic teacher and

1457
01:10:13,410 --> 01:10:11,230
healer by a voice a clear voice that

1458
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:13,420
visited him that was perceived not

1459
01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:16,210
through the ears but through his heart

1460
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:19,480
chakra and it was and it was a voice

1461
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:22,810
that said to him do you he was just

1462
01:10:25,070 --> 01:10:23,650
sound asleep

1463
01:10:27,710 --> 01:10:25,080
and the voice

1464
01:10:31,340 --> 01:10:27,720
came to him and said to him do you wish

1465
01:10:34,370 --> 01:10:31,350
to see your past lives and he was kind

1466
01:10:35,180 --> 01:10:34,380
of half asleep and he said no and wanted

1467
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:35,190
to go back to sleep

1468
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:37,530
and then the voice came back again short

1469
01:10:44,450 --> 01:10:41,250
shorter terse sentence do you wish to

1470
01:10:47,150 --> 01:10:44,460
see your past lives and after about the

1471
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:47,160
third time you finally said yes I would

1472
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:50,370
like to and then the voice brought him

1473
01:10:57,470 --> 01:10:54,690
images and visions of his past lives

1474
01:10:59,780 --> 01:10:57,480
it was amazing adventure where he was

1475
01:11:01,370 --> 01:10:59,790
transported and he was able to see the

1476
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:01,380
different adventures that his different

1477
01:11:06,410 --> 01:11:03,810
incarnations had in different worlds

1478
01:11:08,900 --> 01:11:06,420
most likely and it was an amazing

1479
01:11:11,150 --> 01:11:08,910
experience and that was his clear

1480
01:11:13,010 --> 01:11:11,160
hearing experience and he explains and

1481
01:11:15,380 --> 01:11:13,020
he just he's the only person I've known

1482
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:15,390
that's had both types of experiences so

1483
01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:16,170
it was great

1484
01:11:20,690 --> 01:11:18,150
to get him to write the foreword where

1485
01:11:22,460 --> 01:11:20,700
he explains and you can see vividly the

1486
01:11:26,090 --> 01:11:22,470
difference between the two types of

1487
01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:26,100
experiences right away and when when

1488
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:27,870
this happened okay let me talk about

1489
01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:33,120
your own experience with it when when it

1490
01:11:37,970 --> 01:11:35,310
came with the fire tell me about the

1491
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:37,980
first time because like I can imagine

1492
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:40,110
that you are thinking it's your

1493
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:42,570
imagination that's that's got to be the

1494
01:11:47,630 --> 01:11:44,640
first shot hopefully it's the because

1495
01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:47,640
it's another thought then it will be a

1496
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:51,150
bit a bit weird you know absolutely so

1497
01:11:55,490 --> 01:11:53,730
when I and when I write my books the

1498
01:11:57,620 --> 01:11:55,500
only way I know to write my books is to

1499
01:12:00,080 --> 01:11:57,630
put in a lot of my own personal

1500
01:12:00,980 --> 01:12:00,090
experiences with the paranormal it's the

1501
01:12:03,980 --> 01:12:00,990
only way I can do it

1502
01:12:06,770 --> 01:12:03,990
and so like about a third of my book the

1503
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:06,780
clear hearers is my is my own experience

1504
01:12:09,710 --> 01:12:08,310
and the experiences of my family as I

1505
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:09,720
was growing up as well because we were

1506
01:12:16,220 --> 01:12:12,480
all involved in these experiences so my

1507
01:12:19,010 --> 01:12:16,230
first experience I would say the first

1508
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:19,020
one was when I was I was a teenager I

1509
01:12:25,970 --> 01:12:21,840
was a teenager in New York City growing

1510
01:12:28,490 --> 01:12:25,980
up and I was in my dad's my dad had had

1511
01:12:31,130 --> 01:12:28,500
gotten divorced and he was with my

1512
01:12:33,860 --> 01:12:31,140
stepmother that I did not get along with

1513
01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:33,870
we were in New York City but we were in

1514
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:36,120
Queens in an area that was more more

1515
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:37,450
like suburbs

1516
01:12:43,980 --> 01:12:39,910
or even I would say even kind of opened

1517
01:12:46,290 --> 01:12:43,990
up to rural type area and we were it was

1518
01:12:47,730 --> 01:12:46,300
late 70s and anybody who grew up in New

1519
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:47,740
York City would remember their suit in

1520
01:12:52,860 --> 01:12:50,170
the late 70s there was a blizzard a snow

1521
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:52,870
blizzard that was the worst snow

1522
01:12:58,110 --> 01:12:55,090
blizzard in the history in the history

1523
01:12:59,490 --> 01:12:58,120
of New York State it was it was

1524
01:13:00,570 --> 01:12:59,500
phenomenon was like it was like a two

1525
01:13:02,820 --> 01:13:00,580
hundred year storm

1526
01:13:06,420 --> 01:13:02,830
it went on for like three days and

1527
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:06,430
nights it was incredible the the scope

1528
01:13:11,940 --> 01:13:09,370
of this snowstorm and at that particular

1529
01:13:14,910 --> 01:13:11,950
time I was going through a terrible

1530
01:13:15,420 --> 01:13:14,920
period those my I had to be about 15

1531
01:13:19,290 --> 01:13:15,430
years old

1532
01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:19,300
I was about I was about that was about

1533
01:13:23,250 --> 01:13:21,430
15 years old and I was going through a

1534
01:13:27,690 --> 01:13:23,260
terrible depression because my husband

1535
01:13:29,310 --> 01:13:27,700
my father's why is my stepmother she did

1536
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:29,320
not get along with me and she was

1537
01:13:35,130 --> 01:13:32,170
treating me psychologically abusing me

1538
01:13:36,930 --> 01:13:35,140
and I was telling my dad I wanted to

1539
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:36,940
leave his house and go live with my mom

1540
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:39,610
and my dad had made it clear to me that

1541
01:13:44,220 --> 01:13:41,770
I would never ever go live with my mom

1542
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:44,230
would never escape his home under any

1543
01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:47,530
conditions and I was so I fell into even

1544
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:50,380
worse depression at that point I left my

1545
01:13:54,900 --> 01:13:52,690
dad's house the night the worst night of

1546
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:54,910
the snowstorm I mean the worst night of

1547
01:14:00,180 --> 01:13:57,280
them and I was kind of walking out

1548
01:14:03,330 --> 01:14:00,190
aimlessly into into the outer outer

1549
01:14:05,250 --> 01:14:03,340
reaches of residential areas and I just

1550
01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:05,260
and it was I barely had a light little

1551
01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:08,950
jacket on had n jeans and I wasn't

1552
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,260
trying to consciously do my self harm

1553
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:13,600
but I just wanted to escape I just was

1554
01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:16,210
walking aimlessly in the worst snowstorm

1555
01:14:22,410 --> 01:14:20,200
of a hundred years in that area and it

1556
01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:22,420
was accumulating everywhere and I

1557
01:14:28,140 --> 01:14:24,820
finally got away from residential areas

1558
01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:28,150
I was just walking just walking straight

1559
01:14:33,300 --> 01:14:30,820
line and I I kinda I was starting to

1560
01:14:35,940 --> 01:14:33,310
freeze it was nightfall already I was

1561
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:35,950
starting to freeze and I looked around

1562
01:14:40,590 --> 01:14:37,780
and there was nothing I had gotten the

1563
01:14:41,820 --> 01:14:40,600
way out of residential areas and I was

1564
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:41,830
looking around everything was covered

1565
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:43,570
with snow there was just snow banks

1566
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:46,000
everywhere the distance all I saw was a

1567
01:14:50,380 --> 01:14:48,250
red brick building that appeared to be

1568
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:50,390
either a public school or a prison

1569
01:14:54,940 --> 01:14:52,490
one of those - there was nothing else

1570
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:54,950
around and ice was beginning to freeze I

1571
01:14:58,840 --> 01:14:55,970
could feel my legs

1572
01:15:03,100 --> 01:14:58,850
and I just kind of fell forward into a

1573
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:03,110
snowbank at that point and I tried to I

1574
01:15:10,270 --> 01:15:07,250
just stayed there and I was beginning to

1575
01:15:12,970 --> 01:15:10,280
just slip away laughing - just slip away

1576
01:15:14,230 --> 01:15:12,980
I found out later when you when you

1577
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:14,240
freeze to death

1578
01:15:18,250 --> 01:15:16,250
it's just feels like you're going into a

1579
01:15:20,860 --> 01:15:18,260
wonderful slumber like you're just going

1580
01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:20,870
into a wonderful sleep and that's what I

1581
01:15:26,290 --> 01:15:25,040
felt at those moments and I was just

1582
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:26,300
kind of letting go

1583
01:15:29,950 --> 01:15:28,130
everything was kind of frozen couldn't

1584
01:15:32,410 --> 01:15:29,960
feel my body anymore and I was just

1585
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:32,420
letting go and suddenly everything was

1586
01:15:38,980 --> 01:15:35,210
shattered by just the single phrase get

1587
01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:38,990
up Wow Wow

1588
01:15:48,850 --> 01:15:43,550
okay I shifted around right and tried to

1589
01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:48,860
see who that was coming from and it came

1590
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:53,600
again very loud get up but it wasn't

1591
01:16:00,160 --> 01:15:57,110
coming through my ears it was like

1592
01:16:02,020 --> 01:16:00,170
exploding in my head it was a strange

1593
01:16:05,890 --> 01:16:02,030
way to describe it but that's how it

1594
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:05,900
felt it felt like like if you're next to

1595
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:08,480
one of those giant speakers that

1596
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:11,330
vibrates you and that's what it felt

1597
01:16:17,770 --> 01:16:13,570
like it was vibrating me that voice and

1598
01:16:20,110 --> 01:16:17,780
I could barely I could barely move to

1599
01:16:23,890 --> 01:16:20,120
even look around and see but there was

1600
01:16:26,770 --> 01:16:23,900
nobody around and I just was and my

1601
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:26,780
voice was even gone I was so frozen and

1602
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:28,730
I barely was able to croak out the

1603
01:16:39,190 --> 01:16:33,410
question why and then the voice said

1604
01:16:42,910 --> 01:16:39,200
again get up and showed me images I was

1605
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:42,920
transported to a vision an image of

1606
01:16:48,340 --> 01:16:45,110
something that was happening or could

1607
01:16:51,210 --> 01:16:48,350
happen and I was in my dad's house I was

1608
01:16:54,610 --> 01:16:51,220
transported to my dad's house and I saw

1609
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:54,620
my dad by a phone that he had just hung

1610
01:16:59,260 --> 01:16:57,410
up and somehow I was able to tell that

1611
01:17:00,150 --> 01:16:59,270
he had just been told his son's body had

1612
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:00,160
been found

1613
01:17:05,610 --> 01:17:02,560
somewhere out in outer reaches of the

1614
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:05,620
neighborhood in the snow and that his

1615
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:08,890
son had died and I saw my dad's shoulder

1616
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:10,930
shaking and I saw a whiskey bottle which

1617
01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:14,110
my dad had quit years ago and it was a

1618
01:17:20,010 --> 01:17:17,950
couple of empty shot glasses there and I

1619
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:20,020
saw his shoulder shaking because it

1620
01:17:25,230 --> 01:17:22,030
appeared he was crying and in the back

1621
01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:25,240
my stepmother who I had so much problems

1622
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:27,700
with was pacing back and forth and she

1623
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:31,290
was yelling to no one in particular I'm

1624
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:34,210
glad he's gone he was a rotten no-good

1625
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:37,120
kid why I don't well I don't feel yeah

1626
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:39,130
she was yelling I don't feel bad for him

1627
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:41,110
at all and she was pacing back and forth

1628
01:17:45,140 --> 01:17:42,880
and what's funny is she had actually

1629
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:45,150
said those words to me earlier that week

1630
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:49,120
so as soon as I saw that I was taken

1631
01:17:55,290 --> 01:17:52,000
from away from the from the vision I was

1632
01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:55,300
back in my body and something and that

1633
01:18:00,900 --> 01:17:58,570
scene that scene was exactly what would

1634
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:00,910
motivate me somehow the voice knew and

1635
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:03,070
it just heated up my insides I was so

1636
01:18:10,410 --> 01:18:07,390
angry at seeing that scene and I how

1637
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:10,420
John I we have to continue this but how

1638
01:18:14,610 --> 01:18:12,610
old were you I was about 15

1639
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:14,620
you were 15 was this the storm in New

1640
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:18,970
York City I think so yeah now here's the

1641
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:21,690
thing so you're 15 years old that means

1642
01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:24,610
that you've got a good solid three or

1643
01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:27,190
four years of just messing with that

1644
01:18:37,650 --> 01:18:34,720
woman's life now right I survived this

1645
01:18:39,630 --> 01:18:37,660
incident oh you didn't spill drinks on

1646
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:39,640
her or drop food on or every opportunity

1647
01:18:44,190 --> 01:18:42,640
or tripper or maybe pushed her down some

1648
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:44,200
stairs anything like that

1649
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:47,890
no after that I just I was able to start

1650
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:49,840
moving my limbs little by little I was

1651
01:18:54,420 --> 01:18:52,690
able to start walking a little bit and I

1652
01:18:56,100 --> 01:18:54,430
don't know how because I was completely

1653
01:18:58,410 --> 01:18:56,110
frozen I did have to go to the hospital

1654
01:19:01,470 --> 01:18:58,420
to check my extremities to make sure I

1655
01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:01,480
didn't lose them after that and so I was

1656
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:02,980
in the hospital but at least I was alive

1657
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:05,770
and yeah no I was referring to the

1658
01:19:09,390 --> 01:19:07,690
future and I was just kind of making

1659
01:19:12,930 --> 01:19:09,400
light of the whole thing but I don't

1660
01:19:13,740 --> 01:19:12,940
know how I mean step parents are

1661
01:19:16,350 --> 01:19:13,750
difficult to know

1662
01:19:18,890 --> 01:19:16,360
right oh yeah I get that I've had my

1663
01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:18,900
share of stepparents alright so I

1664
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:21,910
understand that part of it but for her

1665
01:19:25,500 --> 01:19:23,440
to say that to you before the incident

1666
01:19:28,140 --> 01:19:25,510
for you to have the vision right to

1667
01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:28,150
leave your body and then go and see your

1668
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:29,710
father how upset she is she's not

1669
01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:32,560
consoling him she's saying you know I'm

1670
01:19:37,740 --> 01:19:34,780
glad that he's gone how did you deal

1671
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:37,750
with her for after that I mean in real

1672
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:40,570
life after I recovered from that

1673
01:19:44,190 --> 01:19:42,370
incident and I didn't lose any of my

1674
01:19:48,510 --> 01:19:44,200
fingers or toes thank God right

1675
01:19:51,630 --> 01:19:48,520
I basically my mom was able to bring

1676
01:19:53,130 --> 01:19:51,640
things together so that I was came to

1677
01:19:55,650 --> 01:19:53,140
went to live with her and I basically

1678
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:55,660
never saw my stepmother again after that

1679
01:20:03,000 --> 01:19:57,130
oh okay

1680
01:20:07,380 --> 01:20:03,010
man the evil stepmother so I got your

1681
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:07,390
back John I got your back so now what

1682
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:11,920
did this so you recover and as you're

1683
01:20:16,230 --> 01:20:14,050
right let's let's move ahead just like

1684
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:16,240
two days after this right two or three

1685
01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:18,610
days after you you're going back and

1686
01:20:24,150 --> 01:20:21,460
you're recalling this the voice right

1687
01:20:27,180 --> 01:20:24,160
and these things that happen what were

1688
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:27,190
you telling yourself what the experience

1689
01:20:34,380 --> 01:20:32,650
was I was I had no idea the only thing I

1690
01:20:37,740 --> 01:20:34,390
knew was that I had to be careful who I

1691
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:37,750
spoke to about this and the only person

1692
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:40,690
that I could actually even mention this

1693
01:20:45,180 --> 01:20:43,600
to definitely not my dad he was not he

1694
01:20:50,820 --> 01:20:45,190
was not somebody tolerates that sort of

1695
01:20:52,710 --> 01:20:50,830
thing but but my mom my my my mom Neela

1696
01:20:54,630 --> 01:20:52,720
she was she's a person who was a very

1697
01:20:58,170 --> 01:20:54,640
powerful psychic and she was a person

1698
01:21:01,320 --> 01:20:58,180
who was open to talk about anything and

1699
01:21:04,740 --> 01:21:01,330
I remember the phone call when I told

1700
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:04,750
her about my experience and there was

1701
01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:08,800
and I couldn't hold it in I told her the

1702
01:21:12,930 --> 01:21:10,390
entire experience over the phone and

1703
01:21:16,590 --> 01:21:12,940
like I said this this book is a lot

1704
01:21:18,060 --> 01:21:16,600
about my family too and I told her the

1705
01:21:21,690 --> 01:21:18,070
entire experience I just kind of blurted

1706
01:21:24,639 --> 01:21:21,700
it out and the phone line went dead and

1707
01:21:26,889 --> 01:21:24,649
I was thinking I was gonna just

1708
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:26,899
and then I just heard some activity on

1709
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:30,169
the line and she asked me was the voice

1710
01:21:35,799 --> 01:21:32,719
in your head or did you hear it through

1711
01:21:37,540 --> 01:21:35,809
your ears that's when I knew I hit the

1712
01:21:41,529 --> 01:21:37,550
right person doing with this information

1713
01:21:43,540 --> 01:21:41,539
well that's my question to you how did

1714
01:21:46,089 --> 01:21:43,550
you hear it was it in your head or in

1715
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:46,099
your ears no it was it was in my head

1716
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:48,110
absolutely not through the ears at all

1717
01:21:53,529 --> 01:21:51,050
not there was and that's what I found as

1718
01:21:56,580 --> 01:21:53,539
I started studying this because when I

1719
01:21:59,889 --> 01:21:56,590
had this incident it just awoken me a

1720
01:22:02,049 --> 01:21:59,899
purge to keep studying this this

1721
01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:02,059
phenomena and to see what's going on

1722
01:22:07,389 --> 01:22:05,510
these these experiences were really one

1723
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:07,399
of the main things that that motivated

1724
01:22:11,939 --> 01:22:09,679
me to become an FBI agent tonight become

1725
01:22:14,290 --> 01:22:11,949
a professional investigator right right

1726
01:22:16,869 --> 01:22:14,300
what what's the difference between

1727
01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:16,879
hearing this in your head or your ears

1728
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:20,030
what's the difference it seems like it's

1729
01:22:26,469 --> 01:22:23,840
just a difference of result because when

1730
01:22:29,859 --> 01:22:26,479
people get these things through their

1731
01:22:32,350 --> 01:22:29,869
ears it it's the great it's a much more

1732
01:22:34,569 --> 01:22:32,360
chance of it just being some physical

1733
01:22:37,179 --> 01:22:34,579
phenomena right some physical phenomena

1734
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:37,189
that could be created by the outside

1735
01:22:41,889 --> 01:22:40,159
world but here's one of the things and I

1736
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:41,899
and I lay this out because my book isn't

1737
01:22:46,449 --> 01:22:44,239
like an investigative file also and I

1738
01:22:49,689 --> 01:22:46,459
lay these Clues out you know but just

1739
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:49,699
inch by inch and just comparing people's

1740
01:22:55,299 --> 01:22:52,159
experiences and it just appears that

1741
01:22:57,790 --> 01:22:55,309
clear hearers who get these short

1742
01:23:01,000 --> 01:22:57,800
statements and fill okay take said this

1743
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:01,010
he said these are short clear statements

1744
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:03,199
from a higher intelligence right that is

1745
01:23:08,679 --> 01:23:05,840
that is here to help you and to uplift

1746
01:23:10,869 --> 01:23:08,689
you in your most terrible moments and he

1747
01:23:13,239 --> 01:23:10,879
says and he says they are always this

1748
01:23:16,689 --> 01:23:13,249
these are the hallmarks of these of this

1749
01:23:19,330 --> 01:23:16,699
voice that could even be the same voice

1750
01:23:21,339 --> 01:23:19,340
the same entity for all of us we don't

1751
01:23:24,279 --> 01:23:21,349
know so that's what this investigation

1752
01:23:26,649 --> 01:23:24,289
was about but it seems that when people

1753
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:26,659
get the physical through the ears it

1754
01:23:33,429 --> 01:23:30,169
seems like it's more it tends to go more

1755
01:23:34,330 --> 01:23:33,439
with voice hearing in sentences that's

1756
01:23:36,669 --> 01:23:34,340
what it seems like

1757
01:23:37,820 --> 01:23:36,679
because clear errors all have the same

1758
01:23:39,740 --> 01:23:37,830
hallmarks

1759
01:23:42,260 --> 01:23:39,750
the same clues the same qualifications

1760
01:23:44,330 --> 01:23:42,270
that happens to them

1761
01:23:48,020 --> 01:23:44,340
wiebe there's even there's been clear

1762
01:23:51,380 --> 01:23:48,030
hearers who get the voice through the

1763
01:23:52,970 --> 01:23:51,390
chest as weird as that sounds they

1764
01:23:54,620 --> 01:23:52,980
appear to get the voice through the

1765
01:23:56,270 --> 01:23:54,630
chest and then other people say well

1766
01:23:59,120 --> 01:23:56,280
it's not the voice it's not the chest

1767
01:24:01,280 --> 01:23:59,130
it's the heart chakra that creates the

1768
01:24:02,900 --> 01:24:01,290
voice and I don't even know how that

1769
01:24:06,020 --> 01:24:02,910
would work but I've got the testimony

1770
01:24:09,230 --> 01:24:06,030
it's there people say they receive the

1771
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:09,240
voice through their chest and others

1772
01:24:14,630 --> 01:24:12,810
others just say it seems to come the

1773
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:14,640
voice seems to come like it's coming

1774
01:24:19,130 --> 01:24:17,520
from a giant speaker at a concert it

1775
01:24:21,020 --> 01:24:19,140
just comes through their bodies it

1776
01:24:23,450 --> 01:24:21,030
vibrates right through their bodies and

1777
01:24:25,610 --> 01:24:23,460
that's how they receive it and others

1778
01:24:28,220 --> 01:24:25,620
just right inside the head they just

1779
01:24:30,350 --> 01:24:28,230
feel they just feel the voice they do

1780
01:24:34,490 --> 01:24:30,360
not hear it that's just how it is now

1781
01:24:38,450 --> 01:24:34,500
what about the the cases where this is

1782
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:38,460
occurring to somebody and they they go

1783
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:40,890
to maybe they consult with a friend or a

1784
01:24:45,860 --> 01:24:42,960
relative but they end up going to a

1785
01:24:49,070 --> 01:24:45,870
doctor right and they they get some

1786
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:49,080
crazy diagnosis you know your your you

1787
01:24:53,780 --> 01:24:50,730
know your crate here take this medicine

1788
01:24:59,390 --> 01:24:53,790
you know and stun them into submission

1789
01:25:00,920 --> 01:24:59,400
right turn him into a zombie would what

1790
01:25:03,380 --> 01:25:00,930
do we do with a case like that because

1791
01:25:06,700 --> 01:25:03,390
this could be happening but there could

1792
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:06,710
be cases where it could be an actual

1793
01:25:13,670 --> 01:25:10,320
psychosis of some kind yeah they could

1794
01:25:17,300 --> 01:25:13,680
be and people who do have voice hearing

1795
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:17,310
incidences for whatever reason they mean

1796
01:25:21,230 --> 01:25:18,570
they should seek out help and they

1797
01:25:22,610 --> 01:25:21,240
should get help for that but clear

1798
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:22,620
hearing is something completely

1799
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:25,770
different and and yeah you do have to be

1800
01:25:31,010 --> 01:25:28,410
careful who you talk to about these

1801
01:25:33,860 --> 01:25:31,020
incidences because they could be a clear

1802
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:33,870
here it could be misdiagnosed and clear

1803
01:25:38,750 --> 01:25:35,730
Harriers don't really don't really need

1804
01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:38,760
help because the great voice one of the

1805
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:41,310
hallmarks of the great voice that comes

1806
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:42,960
to people in these incidences is that

1807
01:25:47,870 --> 01:25:44,370
the great voice always comes to help

1808
01:25:49,500 --> 01:25:47,880
them to benefit them to lift them up to

1809
01:25:51,630 --> 01:25:49,510
do something for them

1810
01:25:54,900 --> 01:25:51,640
and that's why in my book I recount I

1811
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:54,910
recall incidences where I mean people's

1812
01:26:00,060 --> 01:25:58,090
lives are saved and that's how they know

1813
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:00,070
they don't have a problem this is not

1814
01:26:05,729 --> 01:26:02,650
this is not schizophrenia this is not

1815
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:05,739
voice hearing that this is actually

1816
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:07,930
Clair hearing and that's that's what

1817
01:26:12,330 --> 01:26:10,000
makes the huge difference where did the

1818
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:12,340
term we've got about a minute and a half

1819
01:26:16,370 --> 01:26:14,050
here where did the term great voice come

1820
01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:16,380
from oh that's something that I

1821
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:20,080
specifically I specifically wrote to

1822
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:23,650
assign to the entity that is reaching

1823
01:26:29,310 --> 01:26:26,320
out for us and that's something that I

1824
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:29,320
came it came up with and I think I think

1825
01:26:35,010 --> 01:26:31,450
it's appropriate because because it's

1826
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:35,020
always this it's always this great voice

1827
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:38,080
you see clear here um voice errors tend

1828
01:26:45,390 --> 01:26:42,250
to hear whispering muttering they hear

1829
01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:45,400
these little little voices that's part

1830
01:26:51,390 --> 01:26:47,230
of the hallmarks of that schizophrenia

1831
01:26:54,630 --> 01:26:51,400
type of experience the great voice is

1832
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:54,640
always loud clear articulate right it's

1833
01:27:00,720 --> 01:26:57,250
very well understood because it's meant

1834
01:27:02,970 --> 01:27:00,730
to be understood some people say that's

1835
01:27:05,729 --> 01:27:02,980
one of the reasons why the great voice

1836
01:27:07,290 --> 01:27:05,739
doesn't speak in paragraphs because it

1837
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:07,300
doesn't want to be misunderstood it

1838
01:27:12,330 --> 01:27:09,250
wants to be understood loud and clear

1839
01:27:15,450 --> 01:27:12,340
and so that's that's another hallmark of

1840
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:15,460
it that it is a great voice it is clear

1841
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:18,010
it is it is loud and it is well

1842
01:27:22,710 --> 01:27:21,250
understood that's right right right no

1843
01:27:24,330 --> 01:27:22,720
there's no question about what the

1844
01:27:26,970 --> 01:27:24,340
message is and not speaking in

1845
01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:26,980
paragraphs we're talking about a few

1846
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:29,230
words that that are direct and mean

1847
01:27:33,570 --> 01:27:31,690
something yes exactly

1848
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:33,580
almost like a higher intelligence

1849
01:27:38,370 --> 01:27:36,400
talking to a lower intelligence and

1850
01:27:42,090 --> 01:27:38,380
doesn't want to be misunderstood

1851
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:42,100
that sort of thing it could it be 30

1852
01:27:46,710 --> 01:27:43,890
seconds you can almost say yes or no

1853
01:27:49,890 --> 01:27:46,720
which some people maybe misinterpret

1854
01:27:52,110 --> 01:27:49,900
this as God Oh people do all the time

1855
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:52,120
yes and I have people in my book

1856
01:27:58,020 --> 01:27:55,330
witnesses who they will go they will

1857
01:28:01,230 --> 01:27:58,030
never admit that it's not anything but

1858
01:28:02,430 --> 01:28:01,240
God Jesus

1859
01:28:04,830 --> 01:28:02,440
doesn't matter what you show them or

1860
01:28:05,790 --> 01:28:04,840
what you prove to them right there you

1861
01:28:08,970 --> 01:28:05,800
go

1862
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:08,980
I'm laughing with you not at you or my

1863
01:28:12,540 --> 01:28:10,960
audience this is fade to black our guest

1864
01:28:15,210 --> 01:28:12,550
tonight John D'Souza were discussing his

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guest tonight John D'Souza we're talking

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about his new book clear hearers and

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John what's interesting here is Jason

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quit just called he said the great voice

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just told him that he was not to call

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the show that I had to call him and beg

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so that's what I did

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Jason welcome to the show my friend how

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are you great it's good to be here Jimmy

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and hello John Jason thanks man for

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calling here that how you doin how you

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do Jason you wrote the forward to the

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book and let me ask you did you write

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the foreword to the book before you read

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it or did you write the foreword after

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after so did it influence the forward to

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the book absolutely in fact the book

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gave me a whole lot of interesting

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clarity because what John did in the

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book was give many different accounts

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and definitions for what each type of

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voice is and you know I've had all these

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different experiences and I even

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discussed many of them on your show with

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you of different voices and experiences

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and what I found absolutely fascinating

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about John's book was that he actually

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explained a lot of the things behind

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some of my journeys and brought a lot of

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clarity to me so not only did I read the

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book but John and I had many many

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discussions about what each voice is or

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what each voice is purpose is and when I

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started to hear these different voices

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I really didn't know where they were

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coming from or if they should be trusted

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or what kind of information was being

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given to me and when he started to speak

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about this big great voice that just

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says honestly it's just a couple words

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and it's so clear that it gets you to

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act and I've had these experiences in my

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life and when he started to explain it

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to me I said John this book once it gets

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out into the public you're gonna have so

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many people calling in or emailing you a

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testimonial that this booming voice came

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to them and it literally saved their

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lives and which is if I cut you off I

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apologize but which is when I started

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the show tonight the way that I wanted

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everybody to understand this is I am

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sure that everybody is at one point in

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their lives had this experience right

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and you need to understand what is going

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on and that's what's most important

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you're absolutely right Jason I can only

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imagine the amount of email and contact

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that D'Souza's gonna get off of this

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because it's something that is nearly

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universal it would have to be let me I

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wanted to ask you that right right

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before the break we were talking about

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is this something that is it a sensation

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that is inside of your head or it is you

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know coming through your ear for you

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Jason how does it how does it happen

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it's actually it feels like it's right

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in your head and when John was

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describing the story of me taking

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codeine and then I had all these voices

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yelling at me in my bedroom I actually

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tried to use my hands to cover my ears

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and I realized that I couldn't change

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the volume no matter what I did with my

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ears so it was not coming directly

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through the ear as those coming directly

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through my head and when the different

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voices started to come later in life you

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know many people call it channeling or

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the great voice when those voices came

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to me they were not only in my head but

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most of them came in my own

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it was my own voice talking within the

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Hat that's interesting

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hey wait let me throw this over to John

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John in your research or you just sent

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him huh

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so I don't think you've heard this

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before have you

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no not from Jason no that's very

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interesting but what about yourself the

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voice that told you to get up out of the

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snow before you freeze to death young

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man right before that what whose voice

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was that I believe also I mean looking

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back on it I believe also that it was my

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own voice as well but but it's not

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really fair to say that because it's a

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voice that is one that you've never used

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yourself you see right it's it's a voice

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of authority so it's you know unless

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you're like you're not gonna it's not

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gonna be a voice that people recognize

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about half the witnesses I talked to in

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my book some of them recognize a voice

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like their own but many others don't and

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I believe that the reason they don't

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recognize their own voice there is

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because it's there's a there's an

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authority to it that they have never

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used in their lives and who knows they

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ever will so that's why they don't don't

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recognize their own voice inside that

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voice

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now what about this instance you are

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getting your hang gliding right you got

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a cliff in front of you you're on Mount

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Kilimanjaro 19,000 feet all right and

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you're with your buddies and and you you

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know what don't do it dum-dum right

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right is that the great voice yes accept

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that and people who've had this

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experience will resonate with it accept

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that then the person the hang glider

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will keep on doing what they want to do

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because they don't they don't really

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believe this voice is real right and so

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they'll keep on doing what they want to

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do and the voice will repeat again dummy

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don't do that right don't go that way

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right and then they still won't listen

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to it but then the great voice appears

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to have

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the ability to bring images visions to

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the person and show them how exactly

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they are going to crash and end up a

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01:39:41,450 --> 01:39:38,489
crumpled ball of whatever right when

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they are if they don't listen and so it

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will enforce those visions onto the

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person in a millisecond but will that

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will maybe seem like five minutes and

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once those images go through the

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person's mind they will finally say oh I

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better listen to this and do what they

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say and they will change course and

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that's that's typically very much like

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that it's interesting that you came up

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with that example Jimmy because there's

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several instances throughout my book

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where people were in almost exactly that

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situation and yeah we hear it all the

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time right

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so they take the jump they crash they

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break their arm break their leg they're

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in the hospital and and their loved ones

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are there and they say the those famous

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words and a voice told me not to do it

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right right how many I can hear myself

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saying it actually but they still do it

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anyway

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that's that's that's the interesting

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part so that could be the great voice in

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those instances and when I say that

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everybody's had these experiences

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there's an example of it right there

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don't cross the street don't you know or

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maybe you should don't buy that

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01:41:00,080 --> 01:40:55,050
scratcher buy the other lottery

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scratcher whatever it is this does

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happen and it happens a lot

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now what about those I'm going to throw

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this over to Jason then I want you to

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01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:09,510
answer John Jason what about those that

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don't have ever have heard the voice the

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great voice

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are they the rare instance are they the

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exception no I think that I would say

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we're all born with let's say a little

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voice and you know when you're a child

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and you're and everybody goes through

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this they're gonna go steal something

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from a store for the first time and they

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get this feeling within them they get

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physically sick because

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01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:42,840
no they're doing something wrong you

2132
01:41:47,149 --> 01:41:45,690
know that's kind of like a little voice

2133
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:47,159
telling them you know you shouldn't be

2134
01:41:52,729 --> 01:41:50,730
doing this but as people age we kind of

2135
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:52,739
numb those sensations we numb those

2136
01:41:57,830 --> 01:41:56,159
feelings so we kind of go all over the

2137
01:42:01,189 --> 01:41:57,840
place and we don't listen to our inner

2138
01:42:02,839 --> 01:42:01,199
guidance and sometimes when we're get

2139
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:02,849
when we get ourselves into a really bad

2140
01:42:09,529 --> 01:42:07,110
situation the only thing that will work

2141
01:42:11,779 --> 01:42:09,539
is this great voice that comes to us and

2142
01:42:14,990 --> 01:42:11,789
says don't do this it will give us a

2143
01:42:18,729 --> 01:42:15,000
vision so we don't kill ourselves or get

2144
01:42:23,779 --> 01:42:18,739
into a big amount of trouble and and

2145
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:23,789
yeah go ahead go ahead Jason but like I

2146
01:42:28,609 --> 01:42:26,489
know many people that have an inner

2147
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:28,619
voice but because of their belief

2148
01:42:34,580 --> 01:42:31,489
systems and the way they've grown up

2149
01:42:37,189 --> 01:42:34,590
they just you know they don't really

2150
01:42:39,500 --> 01:42:37,199
listen to it they don't really accept

2151
01:42:42,649 --> 01:42:39,510
that there is an inner guidance within

2152
01:42:45,140 --> 01:42:42,659
them and they're always finding

2153
01:42:46,700 --> 01:42:45,150
themselves in trouble and they know it

2154
01:42:48,379 --> 01:42:46,710
they know oh I should have listened to

2155
01:42:50,569 --> 01:42:48,389
myself I knew I shouldn't have climbed

2156
01:42:54,350 --> 01:42:50,579
that ladder and cut that tree because I

2157
01:42:55,399 --> 01:42:54,360
broke both my legs you know right they

2158
01:42:58,339 --> 01:42:55,409
still go and do it

2159
01:43:00,020 --> 01:42:58,349
because you're stubborn Jon what do you

2160
01:43:02,779 --> 01:43:00,030
think about that if somebody has never

2161
01:43:07,939 --> 01:43:02,789
heard the voice or had it is that normal

2162
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:07,949
I don't think so I think I but then

2163
01:43:12,259 --> 01:43:10,050
again that's because I've been talking

2164
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:12,269
to you know dozens and dozens dozens of

2165
01:43:18,259 --> 01:43:15,690
witnesses that have all heard the great

2166
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:18,269
voice at some point a clear voice of

2167
01:43:23,390 --> 01:43:20,250
authority that comes to them and you

2168
01:43:26,419 --> 01:43:23,400
know saves their lives you know shortly

2169
01:43:29,330 --> 01:43:26,429
shortly after I the experience where I

2170
01:43:33,310 --> 01:43:29,340
was able to get out of my my dad's house

2171
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:33,320
I was I was still a teenager and I was

2172
01:43:38,810 --> 01:43:36,000
walking I was walking visiting some

2173
01:43:39,319 --> 01:43:38,820
relative somewhere in the in Queens New

2174
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:39,329
York

2175
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:43,530
and school had just let out and I was

2176
01:43:48,350 --> 01:43:46,110
out in the sidewalk and I was getting

2177
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:48,360
ready to walk between these two cars to

2178
01:43:52,950 --> 01:43:51,690
cross the street right and suddenly I

2179
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:52,960
just heard

2180
01:44:01,440 --> 01:43:57,370
this very loud clear stop that's it and

2181
01:44:05,540 --> 01:44:01,450
I'd froze I just froze and a smaller

2182
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:05,550
smaller kid with a with a backpack

2183
01:44:09,660 --> 01:44:08,050
jumped in front of me and almost knocked

2184
01:44:12,030 --> 01:44:09,670
me because he had an oversized backpack

2185
01:44:15,180 --> 01:44:12,040
on him almost knocked me over it was

2186
01:44:17,070 --> 01:44:15,190
really rude and I just like and I just

2187
01:44:20,010 --> 01:44:17,080
looked around to see who had said stop

2188
01:44:22,020 --> 01:44:20,020
and as I was doing that the kid who had

2189
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:22,030
just jumped in front of me and crossed

2190
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:26,650
the street he got smashed by an old

2191
01:44:31,050 --> 01:44:28,330
Chevy that had been rocketing through

2192
01:44:32,820 --> 01:44:31,060
the neighborhood and he was killed on

2193
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:32,830
the spot I mean he was just he was

2194
01:44:40,500 --> 01:44:35,530
crunched and he was just killed right

2195
01:44:42,300 --> 01:44:40,510
there and I and my and it myself I just

2196
01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:42,310
said really myself oh my god that should

2197
01:44:46,170 --> 01:44:43,120
have been me

2198
01:44:49,709 --> 01:44:46,180
and again I was looking around to see

2199
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:49,719
where that stop had come from and I

2200
01:44:57,420 --> 01:44:54,210
couldn't see it and that that again

2201
01:44:59,280 --> 01:44:57,430
continued to pique my curiosity about

2202
01:45:02,280 --> 01:44:59,290
that I had to find the source of this

2203
01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:02,290
voice I had to find out what this really

2204
01:45:12,510 --> 01:45:09,280
was what is the source the source is the

2205
01:45:14,670 --> 01:45:12,520
source is actually after and I put

2206
01:45:17,310 --> 01:45:14,680
together a case for this very very

2207
01:45:19,790 --> 01:45:17,320
methodically throughout my entire book I

2208
01:45:23,870 --> 01:45:19,800
lay out the investigative case and

2209
01:45:27,780 --> 01:45:23,880
ultimately it appears the source is

2210
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:27,790
ourself but it is a version of ourselves

2211
01:45:32,130 --> 01:45:29,440
that's very difficult for us to

2212
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:32,140
understand it is the spark of yourself

2213
01:45:37,470 --> 01:45:34,719
that existed before you came to this

2214
01:45:40,050 --> 01:45:37,480
incarnation and that exists after you

2215
01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:40,060
are in incarnation the source of

2216
01:45:48,540 --> 01:45:45,130
yourself an entity that barely remembers

2217
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:48,550
being being you being this little flesh

2218
01:45:54,060 --> 01:45:50,560
covered thing that wanted to get things

2219
01:45:58,410 --> 01:45:54,070
and do things and get stuff and so it's

2220
01:46:01,380 --> 01:45:58,420
a version of yourself that is different

2221
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:01,390
that has a hard time understanding what

2222
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:02,800
it was like to be you

2223
01:46:06,930 --> 01:46:04,930
but that still loves you though

2224
01:46:10,980 --> 01:46:06,940
that loves you and wants to get you

2225
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:10,990
through this this particular life and if

2226
01:46:16,710 --> 01:46:12,370
people want to skip ahead that is

2227
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:16,720
revealed on page 145 well it doesn't

2228
01:46:20,460 --> 01:46:18,130
have to be some life-threatening

2229
01:46:25,110 --> 01:46:20,470
situation I don't want anybody here to

2230
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:25,120
be thinking that it's got to be some

2231
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:27,130
life-threatening situation I can tell

2232
01:46:31,500 --> 01:46:29,410
you one instance I've had a fee I've had

2233
01:46:35,820 --> 01:46:31,510
this we've all had this a few times but

2234
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:35,830
I was I was driving and I was like in

2235
01:46:40,710 --> 01:46:38,560
the 35 mile an hour zone I'm comfortably

2236
01:46:42,180 --> 01:46:40,720
just cruising me along it like 50 60

2237
01:46:44,730 --> 01:46:42,190
miles an hour and I'm going over this

2238
01:46:47,940 --> 01:46:44,740
hill coming I'm going up a hill about to

2239
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:47,950
go over and I swear just like somebody

2240
01:46:54,510 --> 01:46:50,890
just yelled at me slow down there's a

2241
01:46:57,180 --> 01:46:54,520
cop right and I was like would and so I

2242
01:46:59,430 --> 01:46:57,190
backed off I went right down to 35 miles

2243
01:47:02,250 --> 01:46:59,440
an hour on the other side of the hill

2244
01:47:04,830 --> 01:47:02,260
dude sitting right there with his radar

2245
01:47:07,050 --> 01:47:04,840
gun now you know and that's not a

2246
01:47:08,490 --> 01:47:07,060
life-threatening situation and that is

2247
01:47:11,310 --> 01:47:08,500
just something that when it when it

2248
01:47:13,860 --> 01:47:11,320
happens right it's okay right you know

2249
01:47:16,830 --> 01:47:13,870
now that could be the still small voice

2250
01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:16,840
that everybody has which is always

2251
01:47:23,070 --> 01:47:19,270
guiding you counseling you advising you

2252
01:47:25,290 --> 01:47:23,080
the problem is Jimmy that most people

2253
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:25,300
like Jason said they stopped listening

2254
01:47:30,540 --> 01:47:28,210
to their small still voice a long time

2255
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:30,550
ago yeah they ignore it they put it

2256
01:47:35,070 --> 01:47:33,010
aside and that's when the great voice

2257
01:47:37,380 --> 01:47:35,080
sometimes has to come into play that's

2258
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:37,390
that's one of the hypothesis I have in

2259
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:41,410
my book now what about we've got yeah

2260
01:47:50,250 --> 01:47:44,890
we've got enough time what about those

2261
01:47:52,170 --> 01:47:50,260
that call themselves a prophet that they

2262
01:47:57,780 --> 01:47:52,180
they are listening to the great voice

2263
01:48:01,170 --> 01:47:57,790
and that they are a clear here and they

2264
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:01,180
have been told that such and such a date

2265
01:48:05,970 --> 01:48:04,090
is the end of times now we have a

2266
01:48:08,370 --> 01:48:05,980
situation where there are people out

2267
01:48:10,380 --> 01:48:08,380
there that also hear hear things and

2268
01:48:12,839 --> 01:48:10,390
believe that this person is hearing this

2269
01:48:15,959 --> 01:48:12,849
what do we do with that

2270
01:48:18,450 --> 01:48:15,969
yeah I think those people always have to

2271
01:48:20,700 --> 01:48:18,460
be always have to claim to be connected

2272
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:20,710
with God I believe and that seems like

2273
01:48:23,580 --> 01:48:22,719
that's how they always approach that

2274
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:23,590
sort of thing

2275
01:48:30,839 --> 01:48:26,639
but and also you know you have

2276
01:48:33,089 --> 01:48:30,849
Chandler's who always are channeling you

2277
01:48:35,339 --> 01:48:33,099
know ancient warriors and entities and

2278
01:48:37,290 --> 01:48:35,349
people have more knowledge supposedly

2279
01:48:40,350 --> 01:48:37,300
than we do so that sort of thing is

2280
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:40,360
always out there but clear hearing is

2281
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:44,050
something completely different it is

2282
01:48:48,660 --> 01:48:46,480
completely different and one of the

2283
01:48:51,810 --> 01:48:48,670
reasons is because it empowers the

2284
01:48:53,220 --> 01:48:51,820
individual whereas channeling and the

2285
01:48:55,379 --> 01:48:53,230
prophets who declare God's

2286
01:48:57,990 --> 01:48:55,389
pronouncements they're empowering

2287
01:49:01,530 --> 01:48:58,000
somebody else something else over your

2288
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:01,540
life but clear hearers and as I you know

2289
01:49:05,220 --> 01:49:02,650
because I explained in my book how

2290
01:49:07,890 --> 01:49:05,230
people can actually learn to do this

2291
01:49:10,379 --> 01:49:07,900
themselves to reach their that greater

2292
01:49:12,839 --> 01:49:10,389
self that's out there that is just

2293
01:49:16,530 --> 01:49:12,849
waiting to help them out of love and

2294
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:16,540
care for what they are and it's doable

2295
01:49:21,930 --> 01:49:20,050
it can't be done and it usually comes

2296
01:49:24,810 --> 01:49:21,940
out at first during life-threatening

2297
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:24,820
situations for some reason I don't know

2298
01:49:29,939 --> 01:49:26,650
why that is but that seems to be what

2299
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:29,949
what Spurs the first incidences of that

2300
01:49:36,930 --> 01:49:33,520
sort of thing and it's always very very

2301
01:49:40,379 --> 01:49:36,940
different from any sort of prophets of

2302
01:49:41,939 --> 01:49:40,389
God or or our Chandler's either that's

2303
01:49:43,589 --> 01:49:41,949
very very different from that sort of

2304
01:49:45,620 --> 01:49:43,599
thing because it's something it's a very

2305
01:49:48,959 --> 01:49:45,630
personal experience that goes directly

2306
01:49:51,390 --> 01:49:48,969
to the person and comes back to the same

2307
01:49:54,450 --> 01:49:51,400
person how do we differentiate from

2308
01:49:57,359 --> 01:49:54,460
somebody that is full of BS and somebody

2309
01:49:59,520 --> 01:49:57,369
that is really really really trying to

2310
01:50:02,930 --> 01:49:59,530
warn us and bring a message like for

2311
01:50:05,459 --> 01:50:02,940
instance if Joan of Arc was alive today

2312
01:50:08,729 --> 01:50:05,469
right and was speaking the way she is

2313
01:50:11,939 --> 01:50:08,739
speaking today that it could be France

2314
01:50:13,709 --> 01:50:11,949
oh I saw or anything anything it just

2315
01:50:17,250 --> 01:50:13,719
picked a political situation right now

2316
01:50:18,959 --> 01:50:17,260
right on North Korea Russia if she was

2317
01:50:22,379 --> 01:50:18,969
alive today what will we do with her

2318
01:50:24,990 --> 01:50:22,389
today will we also condemn her and call

2319
01:50:26,700 --> 01:50:25,000
her sick how do we how do we tell the

2320
01:50:28,709 --> 01:50:26,710
difference how do we know because

2321
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:28,719
there are successful channelers out

2322
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:30,880
there that are really good that are

2323
01:50:35,390 --> 01:50:32,890
making connections there are other

2324
01:50:39,570 --> 01:50:35,400
people out there that are profiting from

2325
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:39,580
hocus pocus right right well you know

2326
01:50:45,090 --> 01:50:42,489
Joan of Arc is was a very rare

2327
01:50:47,700 --> 01:50:45,100
experience even for our clear hero right

2328
01:50:50,459 --> 01:50:47,710
because her experiences involved an

2329
01:50:52,530 --> 01:50:50,469
entire actually two nations two nations

2330
01:50:55,530 --> 01:50:52,540
that were her what we're locked in

2331
01:50:57,810 --> 01:50:55,540
combat with each other and so she was

2332
01:51:01,290 --> 01:50:57,820
she had a very also Winston Churchill

2333
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:01,300
had had voices that he wouldn't that he

2334
01:51:06,270 --> 01:51:03,489
would use that his doctors were very

2335
01:51:09,150 --> 01:51:06,280
concerned about so but those are very

2336
01:51:12,209 --> 01:51:09,160
very rare usually clear hearing

2337
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:12,219
experiences are very personal they are

2338
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:15,070
from the great voice and they involve

2339
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:17,050
the individual they involve the

2340
01:51:22,260 --> 01:51:18,730
individual and the individuals benefit

2341
01:51:25,950 --> 01:51:22,270
and helping them individually clearing

2342
01:51:28,590 --> 01:51:25,960
experiences almost never go wider to

2343
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:28,600
other to other people like like this is

2344
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:30,730
what I got in my clearing experience and

2345
01:51:34,979 --> 01:51:32,410
now I'm gonna tell you so they can help

2346
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:34,989
you too it's usually it's almost always

2347
01:51:42,150 --> 01:51:37,570
and I've studied maybe you know 200

2348
01:51:43,979 --> 01:51:42,160
cases over the years of this once I got

2349
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:43,989
done with my own experiences as well and

2350
01:51:48,030 --> 01:51:46,330
so it's very very rare that involves

2351
01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:48,040
other people so I don't think it's

2352
01:51:52,620 --> 01:51:51,040
really it's really a concern on that

2353
01:51:55,290 --> 01:51:52,630
level as far as that goes

2354
01:51:56,729 --> 01:51:55,300
Jason if somebody tells you that they

2355
01:51:58,830 --> 01:51:56,739
you know they come up to you and they're

2356
01:52:01,500 --> 01:51:58,840
you know I've been channeling so-and-so

2357
01:52:05,010 --> 01:52:01,510
and so-and-so or I'm a Chandler what's

2358
01:52:07,620 --> 01:52:05,020
what's your test I know that you you're

2359
01:52:13,050 --> 01:52:07,630
a smart guy man so how do you how do you

2360
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:13,060
figure that out well I'll just say that

2361
01:52:19,740 --> 01:52:17,050
with channeling the way that I figure it

2362
01:52:23,700 --> 01:52:19,750
out is that if a person is coming from

2363
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:23,710
let's say like ego like you are this you

2364
01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:26,080
know Great King Great Buddha and you're

2365
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:29,920
here to save the planet right when it

2366
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:32,890
starts to get into an ego based boosting

2367
01:52:38,180 --> 01:52:35,770
your confidence I say you know what

2368
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:38,190
that's not the voice I want to listen to

2369
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:40,210
that's kind of my

2370
01:52:47,010 --> 01:52:44,080
right right right I wanted to come to go

2371
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:47,020
right now I'm Darrell Darrell ANCA right

2372
01:52:56,959 --> 01:52:53,010
Bashar fascinating fascinating

2373
01:53:02,190 --> 01:52:56,969
absolutely when you would you watch him

2374
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:02,200
speak and and go into bashar mode he you

2375
01:53:06,150 --> 01:53:04,090
know nearly physically changes there's

2376
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:06,160
something else that's going on here his

2377
01:53:10,590 --> 01:53:08,170
vocabulary is different his speech

2378
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:10,600
speeds up it's very quick it's very

2379
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:15,010
clear his thought and I really enjoyed

2380
01:53:19,890 --> 01:53:18,400
the shower I don't know what is you know

2381
01:53:22,740 --> 01:53:19,900
he's been a guest on the show and he's

2382
01:53:25,979 --> 01:53:22,750
he's a successful actor and I get all of

2383
01:53:30,420 --> 01:53:25,989
that where we can easily question him

2384
01:53:33,450 --> 01:53:30,430
but when you have somebody like that how

2385
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:33,460
do we how do we how do we sell ourselves

2386
01:53:40,380 --> 01:53:37,290
on it you know how do we get past it

2387
01:53:42,300 --> 01:53:40,390
well I mean a lot of these Chandler's

2388
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:42,310
will bring a lot of hope and confidence

2389
01:53:49,740 --> 01:53:45,010
to people help them out of situations

2390
01:53:52,590 --> 01:53:49,750
that they may be in but we really don't

2391
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:52,600
know what type of entity is being

2392
01:53:57,420 --> 01:53:54,730
allowed in their consciousness to speak

2393
01:54:01,709 --> 01:53:57,430
through them and I know from experience

2394
01:54:04,110 --> 01:54:01,719
that entity is with various agendas

2395
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:04,120
would love to speak through people and

2396
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:06,880
they'll use vocabulary that will make us

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01:54:12,990 --> 01:54:10,810
feel warm inside and you know you can

2398
01:54:15,540 --> 01:54:13,000
listen to a channel that's like 20 pages

2399
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:15,550
long and they've just said nice words

2400
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:19,210
but there's no substance to it right so

2401
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:23,050
it's like what type of energy what type

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01:54:27,660 --> 01:54:24,850
of entity or consciousness is being

2403
01:54:31,310 --> 01:54:27,670
allowed to filter through this person

2404
01:54:33,750 --> 01:54:31,320
and it is a form of possession

2405
01:54:35,459 --> 01:54:33,760
channeling is a form of allowing

2406
01:54:38,729 --> 01:54:35,469
something else into their consciousness

2407
01:54:41,820 --> 01:54:38,739
to come into this world so we just have

2408
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:41,830
to be a little educated and be aware

2409
01:54:45,930 --> 01:54:44,050
that that is the process so there are

2410
01:54:48,660 --> 01:54:45,940
very good channels out there there are

2411
01:54:51,390 --> 01:54:48,670
very conscious entities that would like

2412
01:54:53,130 --> 01:54:51,400
to help us but you know just because

2413
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:53,140
they're outside of us doesn't make them

2414
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:53,770
higher

2415
01:54:57,300 --> 01:54:55,840
Bennis are better than us they all have

2416
01:54:59,700 --> 01:54:57,310
their own agendas and they all have

2417
01:55:04,410 --> 01:54:59,710
their own reasons for doing this

2418
01:55:08,420 --> 01:55:04,420
what if anybody's ever wanted to check

2419
01:55:12,630 --> 01:55:08,430
out Bashar look just go and do this

2420
01:55:16,410 --> 01:55:12,640
Bashar on time-travel go watch that

2421
01:55:19,740 --> 01:55:16,420
video go go and listen as a matter of

2422
01:55:22,370 --> 01:55:19,750
fact close your eyes and just listen to

2423
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:22,380
Bashar speak about time travel we're

2424
01:55:27,660 --> 01:55:25,570
going back to your point Jason and also

2425
01:55:31,470 --> 01:55:27,670
you John this isn't about saving

2426
01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:31,480
humanity right it's not about ego this

2427
01:55:38,730 --> 01:55:34,960
is a technical conversation on time

2428
01:55:42,540 --> 01:55:38,740
travel now that is a it's an example of

2429
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:42,550
something taking over somebody's you

2430
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:44,770
know somebody's vocal cords somebody's

2431
01:55:50,970 --> 01:55:47,010
tongue somebody's mouth somebody's brain

2432
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:50,980
right and and over you know overriding

2433
01:55:58,380 --> 01:55:54,730
the system and and and and getting this

2434
01:56:00,210 --> 01:55:58,390
this out it is a bizarre presentation

2435
01:56:01,860 --> 01:56:00,220
you should go and everybody just go

2436
01:56:03,510 --> 01:56:01,870
check out Bashar and time travel

2437
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:03,520
now we're getting a little sideways here

2438
01:56:08,580 --> 01:56:04,930
when we're talking about channeling but

2439
01:56:11,610 --> 01:56:08,590
the thing is when somebody out there is

2440
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:11,620
talking about hearing a voice in some

2441
01:56:18,690 --> 01:56:13,930
instances it could be channeling others

2442
01:56:22,140 --> 01:56:18,700
it is a religious based situation and so

2443
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:22,150
could the could the great voice could

2444
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:25,690
clear hearing be confused as being from

2445
01:56:31,770 --> 01:56:29,110
God oh yes it is all the time like I

2446
01:56:35,070 --> 01:56:31,780
told you Jimmy I have witnesses that

2447
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:35,080
I've interviewed who have very who have

2448
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:37,090
clear hearing experiences that have all

2449
01:56:42,630 --> 01:56:39,760
the hallmarks of the great voice and

2450
01:56:44,910 --> 01:56:42,640
clear hearing and everything's there I

2451
01:56:48,540 --> 01:56:44,920
mean it's the loud clear voice that

2452
01:56:50,820 --> 01:56:48,550
gives short instruction have a young

2453
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:50,830
lady who was in a car crash

2454
01:56:56,700 --> 01:56:53,530
what was she she was driving she was

2455
01:56:59,130 --> 01:56:56,710
driving through New Jersey at night in

2456
01:57:02,730 --> 01:56:59,140
the worst part of winter and there was a

2457
01:57:04,530 --> 01:57:02,740
lot of a lot of ice that had formed

2458
01:57:08,820 --> 01:57:04,540
underneath the bridge

2459
01:57:11,820 --> 01:57:08,830
and her car happened to slide in front

2460
01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:11,830
of this giant 16 wheeler that was

2461
01:57:17,460 --> 01:57:14,080
barreling up next to her and trying to

2462
01:57:21,420 --> 01:57:17,470
pass her and she hit some black ice and

2463
01:57:24,780 --> 01:57:21,430
she slid underneath the truck as it was

2464
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:24,790
coming and the truck didn't break stride

2465
01:57:33,660 --> 01:57:28,570
didn't even try to brake and she just

2466
01:57:35,070 --> 01:57:33,670
heard the words turn left and before she

2467
01:57:37,770 --> 01:57:35,080
could even think she saw her arms

2468
01:57:40,110 --> 01:57:37,780
responding and turning the part the

2469
01:57:43,500 --> 01:57:40,120
steering wheel hard left as hard as she

2470
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:43,510
could and what it is shifted the car so

2471
01:57:50,690 --> 01:57:46,480
that the back of the car was completely

2472
01:57:54,030 --> 01:57:50,700
destroyed by the tires of the truck and

2473
01:57:55,740 --> 01:57:54,040
she survived in other words where she

2474
01:57:58,830 --> 01:57:55,750
should have been killed and the truck

2475
01:58:00,480 --> 01:57:58,840
just kept going and she was by the side

2476
01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:00,490
of the road she got out she was without

2477
01:58:06,750 --> 01:58:02,800
a scratch because she shifted the

2478
01:58:09,030 --> 01:58:06,760
vehicle just a few inches to avoid her

2479
01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:09,040
being squashed but the rest of the car

2480
01:58:13,380 --> 01:58:10,510
was squashed but the little of those

2481
01:58:16,170 --> 01:58:13,390
little bubble where she was driving that

2482
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:16,180
was all that was left and people who

2483
01:58:21,630 --> 01:58:18,970
came by and saw the wreck of her vehicle

2484
01:58:24,090 --> 01:58:21,640
said where's the cadaver that came out

2485
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:24,100
of here and she said I'm the person that

2486
01:58:27,420 --> 01:58:25,570
came out of there and they were shocked

2487
01:58:29,310 --> 01:58:27,430
they couldn't believe that she had

2488
01:58:32,850 --> 01:58:29,320
survived because that car was like a

2489
01:58:35,790 --> 01:58:32,860
pancake and it was amazing and if that

2490
01:58:38,850 --> 01:58:35,800
voice hadn't told her she would not have

2491
01:58:40,830 --> 01:58:38,860
survived our guest tonight John D'Souza

2492
01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:40,840
we've got Jason quit here with us -

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01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:42,450
Jason you want to stick around

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01:58:46,620 --> 01:58:44,890
sure I'll stick around absolutely I'll

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01:58:46,980 --> 01:58:46,630
rhyme this is fade to black we'll be

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right back

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have a Jason quit here - he's riding in

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the background and I'm holding up to the

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bunker cam I'm just gonna do this -

2599
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everybody check this out what does that

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02:03:48,750 --> 02:03:45,280
say this is a gift from my daughter

2601
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:48,760
that's right that is Martian poop soda

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02:03:54,210 --> 02:03:51,130
and you know the good thing about this

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02:03:56,550 --> 02:03:54,220
and it's in the bottle it's it's a pure

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02:03:59,910 --> 02:03:56,560
cane sugar now that's one and here's

2605
02:04:02,070 --> 02:03:59,920
another one this one is straight Martian

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02:04:04,260 --> 02:04:02,080
soda as you can see it's purple how cool

2607
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:04,270
is this now what do you do you get a

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02:04:09,990 --> 02:04:06,850
really cool gift like this guy's from

2609
02:04:13,170 --> 02:04:10,000
your children right Martian poop soda

2610
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:13,180
and Martian soda it's really cool but

2611
02:04:17,970 --> 02:04:15,610
you can't drink this can you you've got

2612
02:04:18,390 --> 02:04:17,980
to leave these just have to sit on the

2613
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:18,400
shelf

2614
02:04:24,630 --> 02:04:21,970
with the soda intact no you got to drink

2615
02:04:27,330 --> 02:04:24,640
it and then eat the the worm or the poop

2616
02:04:29,610 --> 02:04:27,340
in the box you really you would suggest

2617
02:04:31,260 --> 02:04:29,620
drinking this yeah and you keep the

2618
02:04:33,350 --> 02:04:31,270
empty then you keep the empty hood so

2619
02:04:38,190 --> 02:04:33,360
they can see that you actually drank it

2620
02:04:44,729 --> 02:04:38,200
man Jason would you drink it

2621
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:44,739
probably not man I've been wondering

2622
02:04:51,690 --> 02:04:47,050
what it tastes like you know and yeah

2623
02:04:53,670 --> 02:04:51,700
maybe I should but the thing is man I

2624
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:53,680
like where jon is going with this I'm

2625
02:04:57,570 --> 02:04:55,810
gonna wait for the great voice drink it

2626
02:04:59,190 --> 02:04:57,580
while you're in there yeah boys just

2627
02:04:59,880 --> 02:04:59,200
told me all right I haven't yet okay

2628
02:05:04,110 --> 02:04:59,890
there you go

2629
02:05:09,690 --> 02:05:04,120
maybe the great boys now what do we do

2630
02:05:11,790 --> 02:05:09,700
Jon with this is the great voice okay

2631
02:05:12,780 --> 02:05:11,800
let me give you an example the short

2632
02:05:16,110 --> 02:05:12,790
version

2633
02:05:19,530 --> 02:05:16,120
is the great voice universal or it

2634
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:19,540
appears to be is it the same voice for

2635
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:21,130
everybody the same source of

2636
02:05:27,090 --> 02:05:25,090
intelligence or is it an individualized

2637
02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:27,100
program almost like a spirit guide

2638
02:05:37,140 --> 02:05:31,390
because how could God possibly I'm

2639
02:05:39,030 --> 02:05:37,150
saying God know everybody's life all day

2640
02:05:41,700 --> 02:05:39,040
long every single day of every single

2641
02:05:45,090 --> 02:05:41,710
living soul on this planet what they are

2642
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:45,100
doing right from wrong so you know so

2643
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:48,330
what are we doing is the great voice

2644
02:05:53,940 --> 02:05:52,330
universal I yes I think it is and I

2645
02:05:56,610 --> 02:05:53,950
think it's however I think it is

2646
02:05:58,710 --> 02:05:56,620
individualized like you said

2647
02:06:00,360 --> 02:05:58,720
like for instance the young lady I was

2648
02:06:03,060 --> 02:06:00,370
telling you about before the break who

2649
02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:03,070
was in the horrible car accident where

2650
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:06,370
her life was saved by hearing the great

2651
02:06:10,620 --> 02:06:09,010
voice she was a very religious in them

2652
02:06:14,430 --> 02:06:10,630
she was a very religious person I write

2653
02:06:17,070 --> 02:06:14,440
about her in my book and she told me the

2654
02:06:18,420 --> 02:06:17,080
experience many times insisting again

2655
02:06:20,250 --> 02:06:18,430
and again was the voice of God it was

2656
02:06:21,450 --> 02:06:20,260
the voice of Jesus it was the voice of

2657
02:06:25,170 --> 02:06:21,460
God and she would alternate between

2658
02:06:27,090 --> 02:06:25,180
Jesus and God and then one time I asked

2659
02:06:29,340 --> 02:06:27,100
her to please close her eyes just close

2660
02:06:32,190 --> 02:06:29,350
her eyes and just focus and concentrate

2661
02:06:35,070 --> 02:06:32,200
on the quality and tenor and remembrance

2662
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:35,080
of what the voice was like no matter

2663
02:06:39,090 --> 02:06:36,490
because I know I told her I know it's

2664
02:06:41,180 --> 02:06:39,100
very loud and authoritative so it's kind

2665
02:06:43,770 --> 02:06:41,190
of hard to tell but just try to remember

2666
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:43,780
close your eyes and listen and then try

2667
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:47,530
to remember and her her eyes came open

2668
02:06:54,300 --> 02:06:50,650
and she said she said oh my god it was a

2669
02:06:57,690 --> 02:06:54,310
woman's voice that sounded like my hmm

2670
02:06:59,790 --> 02:06:57,700
and she couldn't believe she was more

2671
02:07:02,160 --> 02:06:59,800
shocked than anyone because she was very

2672
02:07:05,610 --> 02:07:02,170
adamant in her you know religious

2673
02:07:08,250 --> 02:07:05,620
beliefs and I I kind of expected that

2674
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:08,260
reaction because that's what I get when

2675
02:07:12,900 --> 02:07:09,850
all the hallmarks are the great voice

2676
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:12,910
are there every single item that and

2677
02:07:16,910 --> 02:07:14,770
there's there's a list there's a list of

2678
02:07:18,919 --> 02:07:16,920
of clues that

2679
02:07:21,260 --> 02:07:18,929
point to the great voice but when all

2680
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:21,270
those items are there usually the person

2681
02:07:28,100 --> 02:07:24,890
is able to recognize an individualised

2682
02:07:30,950 --> 02:07:28,110
entity in the individual voice that

2683
02:07:33,169 --> 02:07:30,960
comes kind of it comes back to them what

2684
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:33,179
about okay we've we've talked a lot

2685
02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:35,810
about warnings right life-and-death

2686
02:07:41,030 --> 02:07:39,360
situations and clearly there's a lot of

2687
02:07:43,610 --> 02:07:41,040
evidence for that I've had my own

2688
02:07:45,970 --> 02:07:43,620
experience and everybody has tasted that

2689
02:07:52,610 --> 02:07:45,980
but what about something that is

2690
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:52,620
specific a set of directions go to go to

2691
02:07:58,490 --> 02:07:55,250
another state and you know you know a

2692
02:08:00,890 --> 02:07:58,500
specific set of instructions to go and

2693
02:08:03,110 --> 02:08:00,900
do something is that the great voice as

2694
02:08:07,580 --> 02:08:03,120
well and do you listen to it and act

2695
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:07,590
upon it yes I do and yes it can be as I

2696
02:08:12,620 --> 02:08:10,410
found out later and I write about later

2697
02:08:14,810 --> 02:08:12,630
in my book my understanding of the great

2698
02:08:18,070 --> 02:08:14,820
voice did go through an evolution and

2699
02:08:22,370 --> 02:08:18,080
did it did become it did become longer

2700
02:08:25,430 --> 02:08:22,380
messages sometimes messages left left

2701
02:08:27,410 --> 02:08:25,440
overnight kind of like an imprint kind

2702
02:08:30,439 --> 02:08:27,420
of like an imprint like a post-it note

2703
02:08:32,540 --> 02:08:30,449
on your forehead that just left longer

2704
02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:32,550
messages and so forth depending on the

2705
02:08:39,020 --> 02:08:34,770
situation too well give you an example

2706
02:08:42,350 --> 02:08:39,030
oh well I love well let me tell you I

2707
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:42,360
had a experience when I was with my with

2708
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:45,330
my kids and this was this was later in

2709
02:08:53,090 --> 02:08:48,330
life when I had my own family and I had

2710
02:08:55,790 --> 02:08:53,100
an example where I had taken my kids I

2711
02:08:59,840 --> 02:08:55,800
was assigned to Washington DC for a year

2712
02:09:01,520 --> 02:08:59,850
and this is just and I was it was the

2713
02:09:05,479 --> 02:09:01,530
first time I was able to bring my my

2714
02:09:07,490 --> 02:09:05,489
boys were probably about 8 and 10 8 and

2715
02:09:09,530 --> 02:09:07,500
10 years old at the time

2716
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:09,540
or maybe they yeah right about there and

2717
02:09:15,290 --> 02:09:13,290
one of them I was we went to something

2718
02:09:17,709 --> 02:09:15,300
that if anybody's been in DC they

2719
02:09:22,100 --> 02:09:17,719
wouldn't know about this they have some

2720
02:09:24,370 --> 02:09:22,110
escalators in DC that are that are

2721
02:09:26,890 --> 02:09:24,380
several stories high

2722
02:09:28,390 --> 02:09:26,900
that though you know people everybody

2723
02:09:29,620 --> 02:09:28,400
sees those escalators at the mall

2724
02:09:33,010 --> 02:09:29,630
they're just one floor

2725
02:09:36,420 --> 02:09:33,020
these escalators go like five or six

2726
02:09:39,340 --> 02:09:36,430
stories they're huge enormous

2727
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:39,350
achievements of technological know-how

2728
02:09:46,030 --> 02:09:43,250
it's it's a they're enormous and I even

2729
02:09:47,740 --> 02:09:46,040
I have pictures of these as well and if

2730
02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:47,750
anybody's been on them it's pretty and

2731
02:09:51,190 --> 02:09:49,370
it's kind of intimidating because they

2732
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:51,200
just go on looks like we go on for half

2733
02:09:55,900 --> 02:09:53,840
a mile down into the bowels and some of

2734
02:09:58,500 --> 02:09:55,910
them have tunnels with them and they're

2735
02:10:01,900 --> 02:09:58,510
pretty amazing anyway I had my two sons

2736
02:10:04,450 --> 02:10:01,910
on during that during that vacation and

2737
02:10:06,550 --> 02:10:04,460
they were they were running back and the

2738
02:10:08,860 --> 02:10:06,560
thing is that part of DC was desolate

2739
02:10:10,630 --> 02:10:08,870
there was nobody else around because

2740
02:10:13,630 --> 02:10:10,640
there was some kind of huge event going

2741
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:13,640
on on the other side of town so we were

2742
02:10:18,970 --> 02:10:16,010
close to a mall and we were on one of

2743
02:10:21,490 --> 02:10:18,980
these giant escalators things and

2744
02:10:23,530 --> 02:10:21,500
because there was no one else around my

2745
02:10:25,210 --> 02:10:23,540
two boys were very young they had their

2746
02:10:29,020 --> 02:10:25,220
ball caps on and they were running back

2747
02:10:31,900 --> 02:10:29,030
and forth on these escalators and it

2748
02:10:34,900 --> 02:10:31,910
wasn't paying attention too much and my

2749
02:10:37,510 --> 02:10:34,910
older son got really far ahead of us on

2750
02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:37,520
one of these giant escalators that go on

2751
02:10:42,220 --> 02:10:40,490
for like five stories and it just got

2752
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:42,230
too far ahead of me I kind of didn't

2753
02:10:46,930 --> 02:10:44,330
keep in that eye on him

2754
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:46,940
and I was telling my boys and because

2755
02:10:50,290 --> 02:10:48,290
there was no one else there was no one

2756
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:50,300
else around so they were kind of getting

2757
02:10:54,130 --> 02:10:51,530
further and further away from me

2758
02:10:56,650 --> 02:10:54,140
so I finally I called my younger boy to

2759
02:11:00,550 --> 02:10:56,660
come come closer to me and he came back

2760
02:11:04,150 --> 02:11:00,560
and then I called out to my to my older

2761
02:11:06,430 --> 02:11:04,160
boy who was was maybe he was maybe about

2762
02:11:08,890 --> 02:11:06,440
200 feet away from me

2763
02:11:12,190 --> 02:11:08,900
further down down the escalator as we

2764
02:11:14,550 --> 02:11:12,200
were going down on incline and I I

2765
02:11:19,930 --> 02:11:14,560
called out to him again a second time

2766
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:19,940
and he didn't he didn't move he was just

2767
02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:23,570
standing there and I called out to him a

2768
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:25,760
third time and now I got a sick feeling

2769
02:11:30,100 --> 02:11:28,010
in my stomach because he was standing

2770
02:11:32,770 --> 02:11:30,110
rock still he wouldn't move and I almost

2771
02:11:34,690 --> 02:11:32,780
felt like there was a doppelganger

2772
02:11:35,920 --> 02:11:34,700
pretending to be my son that wasn't

2773
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:35,930
really him

2774
02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:40,490
and I just I just I just yelled out to

2775
02:11:47,470 --> 02:11:44,450
him and again there was no response and

2776
02:11:49,810 --> 02:11:47,480
I heard something I felt something in my

2777
02:11:55,390 --> 02:11:49,820
chest that just said it just said move

2778
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:55,400
now and I just jumped from where I was I

2779
02:12:02,380 --> 02:11:58,880
took like ten escalators I took like ten

2780
02:12:07,210 --> 02:12:02,390
pounds at a time and I just jumped down

2781
02:12:09,940 --> 02:12:07,220
there and because my boy turned around

2782
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:09,950
at this time like an owl and his eyes

2783
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:13,010
were his pupils wider saucers and he

2784
02:12:17,710 --> 02:12:14,570
looked really scary say I can't move I

2785
02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:17,720
can't move I'm stuck I'm stuck as I was

2786
02:12:25,060 --> 02:12:22,490
jumping down there oh my god he said and

2787
02:12:27,670 --> 02:12:25,070
then I got there to where my son was and

2788
02:12:30,220 --> 02:12:27,680
he just told me my sneakers stuck it's

2789
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:30,230
being it's in the grate and it's the tip

2790
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:32,210
of my energies were not stinkers these

2791
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:34,010
were like these indestructible kind of

2792
02:12:40,540 --> 02:12:36,290
shoes that we had just bought for them

2793
02:12:43,780 --> 02:12:40,550
and it was a big mistake because it was

2794
02:12:46,330 --> 02:12:43,790
stuck in the grating and I could see it

2795
02:12:50,260 --> 02:12:46,340
and his breathing was off the charts use

2796
02:12:54,220 --> 02:12:50,270
he was really scared and his his foot it

2797
02:12:56,380 --> 02:12:54,230
was the shoe the tip was stuck in the

2798
02:13:00,130 --> 02:12:56,390
escalator grating and it was being

2799
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:00,140
pulled in further and I said okay this

2800
02:13:05,950 --> 02:13:01,970
is no problem I was a weight lifter and

2801
02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:05,960
like I put my knees into it and I just

2802
02:13:15,130 --> 02:13:10,970
pulled on the shoe and it didn't didn't

2803
02:13:19,480 --> 02:13:15,140
move I just heard sounds from go ahead I

2804
02:13:22,330 --> 02:13:19,490
said oh my god and I just kept pulling I

2805
02:13:24,850 --> 02:13:22,340
mean I kept pulling and it was like I

2806
02:13:27,820 --> 02:13:24,860
was caught in a panic loop and I just

2807
02:13:30,550 --> 02:13:27,830
and the she was getting sucked in more

2808
02:13:33,820 --> 02:13:30,560
by these threshing grates I mean I could

2809
02:13:36,460 --> 02:13:33,830
see them moving back and forth and they

2810
02:13:38,750 --> 02:13:36,470
were sucking the shoe in more and more

2811
02:13:42,370 --> 02:13:38,760
and I heard sounds or my son

2812
02:13:45,620 --> 02:13:42,380
right and he was not and I just I just

2813
02:13:49,580 --> 02:13:45,630
might I just try to get in there and

2814
02:13:50,780 --> 02:13:49,590
pull harder and I could see the thing

2815
02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:50,790
stretching but he was just getting

2816
02:13:56,150 --> 02:13:53,730
pulled in more and I felt strands like

2817
02:13:58,460 --> 02:13:56,160
guitar strings popping in my back

2818
02:14:01,729 --> 02:13:58,470
because that's how hard I was pulling

2819
02:14:02,900 --> 02:14:01,739
and then suddenly the voice came again

2820
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:02,910
through my chest

2821
02:14:11,500 --> 02:14:06,330
I heard under the laces undo the laces

2822
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:11,510
and I saw my hands my hands go through

2823
02:14:15,979 --> 02:14:13,890
go through the laces which actually were

2824
02:14:18,410 --> 02:14:15,989
straps they weren't laces they were

2825
02:14:21,229 --> 02:14:18,420
straps and I started undoing the laces

2826
02:14:24,140 --> 02:14:21,239
and even as I was doing that the shoe

2827
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:24,150
got away from me and was being the

2828
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:26,130
entire thing was being sucked into there

2829
02:14:32,390 --> 02:14:29,280
along with his foot and I was able just

2830
02:14:34,729 --> 02:14:32,400
barely in time to pull his foot out the

2831
02:14:37,130 --> 02:14:34,739
sock was ripped off and the shoe both

2832
02:14:40,940 --> 02:14:37,140
were at that moment were sucked into the

2833
02:14:44,150 --> 02:14:40,950
grating into the the escalator and was

2834
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:44,160
then they were gone they were gone and I

2835
02:14:49,370 --> 02:14:46,770
just pulled my boys foot up and nothing

2836
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:49,380
was missing everything was there and I

2837
02:14:54,110 --> 02:14:52,170
just grabbed him like the stairs were

2838
02:14:56,180 --> 02:14:54,120
like the stairs teeth were chasing him

2839
02:14:58,580 --> 02:14:56,190
and I just grabbed him and just took him

2840
02:15:01,340 --> 02:14:58,590
up to a place where some plants and I

2841
02:15:04,430 --> 02:15:01,350
just put him up there with his foot

2842
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:04,440
completely fine and I couldn't believe

2843
02:15:08,150 --> 02:15:04,800
it

2844
02:15:10,490 --> 02:15:08,160
and some people saw there was another

2845
02:15:13,820 --> 02:15:10,500
couple that saw what happened and they

2846
02:15:15,979 --> 02:15:13,830
were they were a Christian evangelist

2847
02:15:17,810 --> 02:15:15,989
couple and they started they said they

2848
02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:17,820
swept they had seen was a miracle they

2849
02:15:21,410 --> 02:15:19,290
couldn't believe it right and they

2850
02:15:23,630 --> 02:15:21,420
started singing praises to God and so

2851
02:15:26,060 --> 02:15:23,640
forth and they were and my boy was

2852
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:26,070
shivering he was in shock he was in he

2853
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:27,930
was in shock and he was pale and they

2854
02:15:31,910 --> 02:15:29,850
came over they did some prayers with him

2855
02:15:35,300 --> 02:15:31,920
and they told him this was a miracle

2856
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:35,310
they had seen and I yelled at my wife

2857
02:15:39,170 --> 02:15:37,170
you know how come she didn't hit the

2858
02:15:42,680 --> 02:15:39,180
stop sooner because she did get to stop

2859
02:15:44,330 --> 02:15:42,690
the emergency stop on the thing and she

2860
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:44,340
told me the whole whole thing only took

2861
02:15:49,700 --> 02:15:47,520
like 20 seconds she said it didn't or

2862
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:49,710
less than that it must've seemed like an

2863
02:15:52,580 --> 02:15:52,170
hour it did it did it seemed like an

2864
02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:52,590
hour

2865
02:15:56,959 --> 02:15:54,810
long adventure that's why I that's why I

2866
02:15:58,250 --> 02:15:56,969
said to her what what was going on where

2867
02:16:00,410 --> 02:15:58,260
were you why didn't you hit that

2868
02:16:01,669 --> 02:16:00,420
emergency stop and then when she told me

2869
02:16:03,260 --> 02:16:01,679
the whole thing was 20 seconds I

2870
02:16:05,899 --> 02:16:03,270
couldn't believe it I couldn't believe

2871
02:16:10,490 --> 02:16:05,909
it I was I was amazed so yeah that's

2872
02:16:13,250 --> 02:16:10,500
that's an example of a day that my that

2873
02:16:17,479 --> 02:16:13,260
my son was appointed to you know lose

2874
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:17,489
his foot and it was prevented by the

2875
02:16:22,459 --> 02:16:19,770
great voice giving some instructions and

2876
02:16:24,890 --> 02:16:22,469
just you know there's times when we get

2877
02:16:26,959 --> 02:16:24,900
caught in the panic loop and that's what

2878
02:16:29,149 --> 02:16:26,969
happened to me that's what happened to

2879
02:16:32,509 --> 02:16:29,159
me at that at that moment when I just

2880
02:16:35,839 --> 02:16:32,519
kept struggling to pull this this

2881
02:16:37,940 --> 02:16:35,849
indestructible shoe out of that out of

2882
02:16:41,599 --> 02:16:37,950
that stair grating and it just it would

2883
02:16:46,639 --> 02:16:41,609
not happen and it was so that was an

2884
02:16:50,959 --> 02:16:46,649
example of it working happening what

2885
02:16:53,599 --> 02:16:50,969
about the you know the scientific

2886
02:16:56,379 --> 02:16:53,609
community here you know looking into

2887
02:16:57,530 --> 02:16:56,389
something like this I think it is

2888
02:17:00,020 --> 02:16:57,540
evidence

2889
02:17:03,169 --> 02:17:00,030
I wouldn't say proof yet because it

2890
02:17:07,459 --> 02:17:03,179
hasn't but evidence of the universal

2891
02:17:10,759 --> 02:17:07,469
connection of everything yeah you know

2892
02:17:13,490 --> 02:17:10,769
there is there is a lot but when it

2893
02:17:17,060 --> 02:17:13,500
comes to science you know I talked about

2894
02:17:19,009 --> 02:17:17,070
in my book that people need to

2895
02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:19,019
familiarize themselves with what the

2896
02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:21,210
great voice is right and how it works

2897
02:17:25,580 --> 02:17:23,090
and one of the reasons is because

2898
02:17:27,770 --> 02:17:25,590
there's a lot of counterfeit voices out

2899
02:17:30,410 --> 02:17:27,780
there and as a matter of fact there is

2900
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:30,420
scalar technology that is available

2901
02:17:36,349 --> 02:17:32,570
right now that the national government

2902
02:17:38,660 --> 02:17:36,359
use that they use on pretty much in the

2903
02:17:41,810 --> 02:17:38,670
black world but I think they can I think

2904
02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:41,820
it's also available in military uses

2905
02:17:49,129 --> 02:17:44,370
where it's scalar technology that can

2906
02:17:52,820 --> 02:17:49,139
create voices direct to skull direct to

2907
02:17:55,879 --> 02:17:52,830
skull and you know this could this could

2908
02:17:59,389 --> 02:17:55,889
be abused in the very near future to

2909
02:18:00,589 --> 02:17:59,399
create this sort of counterfeit of the

2910
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:00,599
great voice and it doesn't go through

2911
02:18:03,640 --> 02:18:02,490
the ears it has nothing to do with the

2912
02:18:06,871 --> 02:18:03,650
ears that's what some may

2913
02:18:09,150 --> 02:18:06,881
about it and technology is out there and

2914
02:18:12,791 --> 02:18:09,160
that's one of the reasons that people

2915
02:18:15,791 --> 02:18:12,801
should learn to distinguish what is the

2916
02:18:18,010 --> 02:18:15,801
great voice and what is not and you know

2917
02:18:20,530 --> 02:18:18,020
with Jason being there Jason and I write

2918
02:18:23,890 --> 02:18:20,540
about in the book also an incident of

2919
02:18:29,260 --> 02:18:23,900
counterfeit great voice that happened to

2920
02:18:32,320 --> 02:18:29,270
him where he had a being that came to

2921
02:18:33,730 --> 02:18:32,330
him and spoke to him in his voice about

2922
02:18:36,820 --> 02:18:33,740
Jason should tell that story

2923
02:18:39,700 --> 02:18:36,830
yeah go ahead Jason yes

2924
02:18:41,950 --> 02:18:39,710
and basically this voice told me that I

2925
02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:41,960
was gonna die and it was my own voice

2926
02:18:45,791 --> 02:18:43,610
telling me that I'm going to die of

2927
02:18:48,340 --> 02:18:45,801
cancer and I only have a couple months

2928
02:18:53,621 --> 02:18:48,350
to live and tell my family tell my

2929
02:18:55,840 --> 02:18:53,631
friends and at that moment I realized

2930
02:18:58,570 --> 02:18:55,850
that you know the voices that we hear

2931
02:19:01,090 --> 02:18:58,580
may not be ours and when I came to that

2932
02:19:04,600 --> 02:19:01,100
real a realization I popped out of my

2933
02:19:07,930 --> 02:19:04,610
body and laying in bed beside me was

2934
02:19:10,840 --> 02:19:07,940
some type of being speaking right into

2935
02:19:14,740 --> 02:19:10,850
the back of my head and when I saw that

2936
02:19:18,150 --> 02:19:14,750
it not only blew me away but it changed

2937
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:18,160
my whole perspective that you know maybe

2938
02:19:25,660 --> 02:19:21,920
not maybe absolutely there are beings

2939
02:19:30,310 --> 02:19:25,670
out there that will manipulate us

2940
02:19:33,520 --> 02:19:30,320
through our own voices too for what end

2941
02:19:37,660 --> 02:19:33,530
I don't know to manipulate us to get

2942
02:19:39,160 --> 02:19:37,670
energy from us but it might even be like

2943
02:19:41,380 --> 02:19:39,170
and Jason when they saw the plant

2944
02:19:42,670 --> 02:19:41,390
memories what did they look hard to me

2945
02:19:45,340 --> 02:19:42,680
when you saw them when you saw that

2946
02:19:47,890 --> 02:19:45,350
creature light it looked like it looked

2947
02:19:49,541 --> 02:19:47,900
like an angel it looked like an angel

2948
02:19:52,690 --> 02:19:49,551
what land wings

2949
02:19:56,591 --> 02:19:52,700
what do you mean no it looked like it

2950
02:19:59,801 --> 02:19:56,601
was it looked like it was just sparkling

2951
02:20:02,770 --> 02:19:59,811
white light it was like a light being

2952
02:20:04,990 --> 02:20:02,780
and it was just laying in bed pair

2953
02:20:07,751 --> 02:20:05,000
parallel behind me almost like he was

2954
02:20:10,600 --> 02:20:07,761
tuning me and it was talking in the back

2955
02:20:14,680 --> 02:20:10,610
of my head and when I popped out of my

2956
02:20:17,500 --> 02:20:14,690
body and I I actually grabbed it this

2957
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:17,510
thing freaked out it was

2958
02:20:23,769 --> 02:20:21,130
it was almost like it was unaware that

2959
02:20:26,620 --> 02:20:23,779
these human beings could catch them

2960
02:20:31,030 --> 02:20:26,630
doing this so it was very shocked that I

2961
02:20:34,090 --> 02:20:31,040
caught it and when I asked it who it was

2962
02:20:36,219 --> 02:20:34,100
it wouldn't give me an answer and I

2963
02:20:39,880 --> 02:20:36,229
asked it if it was a being of light and

2964
02:20:43,510 --> 02:20:39,890
it said no and when I found out it it

2965
02:20:45,130 --> 02:20:43,520
wasn't for my benefit obviously I told

2966
02:20:48,580 --> 02:20:45,140
them to get out of there and never to

2967
02:20:50,650 --> 02:20:48,590
manipulate me ever again and this has

2968
02:20:52,780 --> 02:20:50,660
happened to me actually many times and

2969
02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:52,790
it's not just through a voice but

2970
02:20:59,530 --> 02:20:56,090
sometimes through implanted visions or

2971
02:21:03,849 --> 02:20:59,540
implanted dreams where it can be a dream

2972
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:03,859
that I know is not mine and I could say

2973
02:21:08,590 --> 02:21:06,410
this is not my dream pop out and see

2974
02:21:11,820 --> 02:21:08,600
that there is in fact some being with me

2975
02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:11,830
in the room sending or broadcasting that

2976
02:21:18,820 --> 02:21:16,490
vision into my head well what was I

2977
02:21:23,530 --> 02:21:18,830
remember you telling me about this

2978
02:21:28,900 --> 02:21:23,540
experience before when you say light

2979
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:28,910
being how were you able to physically

2980
02:21:33,490 --> 02:21:31,130
grab them it was it because that you

2981
02:21:35,440 --> 02:21:33,500
were not physical yourself at that

2982
02:21:38,290 --> 02:21:35,450
moment and that's why you were able to

2983
02:21:40,530 --> 02:21:38,300
do that because your physical self would

2984
02:21:42,940 --> 02:21:40,540
have probably passed straight through it

2985
02:21:44,559 --> 02:21:42,950
right my physical body was still

2986
02:21:48,580 --> 02:21:44,569
sleeping right that's what I was saying

2987
02:21:50,380 --> 02:21:48,590
like is that why you were mine yes I had

2988
02:21:52,360 --> 02:21:50,390
an outer-body experience so I was

2989
02:21:54,910 --> 02:21:52,370
completely out of my body and I could

2990
02:21:56,710 --> 02:21:54,920
see my body laying a bet it was almost

2991
02:21:59,700 --> 02:21:56,720
like what people describe as a

2992
02:22:02,710 --> 02:21:59,710
near-death experience so once I am out

2993
02:22:05,710 --> 02:22:02,720
we can call it using my astral body I

2994
02:22:11,530 --> 02:22:05,720
can grab it with my astral form right

2995
02:22:15,070 --> 02:22:11,540
right ghost on ghost see light being

2996
02:22:19,059 --> 02:22:15,080
didn't expect that it sounds like you

2997
02:22:21,340 --> 02:22:19,069
surprised the light being yes and you

2998
02:22:23,230 --> 02:22:21,350
know we kind of have weird definitions

2999
02:22:26,679 --> 02:22:23,240
because you would think a light being

3000
02:22:28,889 --> 02:22:26,689
would be a being of the light but what

3001
02:22:31,260 --> 02:22:28,899
I've learned is that these type of

3002
02:22:34,319 --> 02:22:31,270
interdimensional and two

3003
02:22:36,750 --> 02:22:34,329
tee's could take on a form that would be

3004
02:22:40,410 --> 02:22:36,760
very suitable for us so it'd be very

3005
02:22:43,559 --> 02:22:40,420
confusing for us to distinguish what is

3006
02:22:47,069 --> 02:22:43,569
a being of benefit and a being of non

3007
02:22:49,950 --> 02:22:47,079
benefit very interesting very

3008
02:22:51,689 --> 02:22:49,960
interesting experience the book is

3009
02:22:53,910 --> 02:22:51,699
excellent by the way John

3010
02:22:56,010 --> 02:22:53,920
now you're gonna be speaking this

3011
02:22:59,040 --> 02:22:56,020
weekend so let's talk about that really

3012
02:23:00,149 --> 02:22:59,050
quick oh that's right yeah we yes that's

3013
02:23:03,330 --> 02:23:00,159
the problem when you have a great

3014
02:23:06,689 --> 02:23:03,340
conversation you know we just completely

3015
02:23:09,019 --> 02:23:06,699
so what's going on this weekend oh yes

3016
02:23:12,450 --> 02:23:09,029
we're having the heart frequency

3017
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:12,460
conference we'll be bringing people real

3018
02:23:18,569 --> 02:23:15,850
real ET evidence real UFO evidence and

3019
02:23:21,899 --> 02:23:18,579
ET artifacts and scientific proof that's

3020
02:23:25,559 --> 02:23:21,909
never been shared before it is the it is

3021
02:23:30,359 --> 02:23:25,569
the heart frequency conference this

3022
02:23:33,420 --> 02:23:30,369
Friday Saturday Sunday October 13 14 and

3023
02:23:36,660 --> 02:23:33,430
15 and yes we will be having a pretty

3024
02:23:40,050 --> 02:23:36,670
amazing speakers with the great Mary rod

3025
02:23:42,660 --> 02:23:40,060
well the premier researcher an

3026
02:23:44,340 --> 02:23:42,670
experienced are from Australia she's

3027
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:44,350
doing her national tour and she's

3028
02:23:50,130 --> 02:23:46,930
starting with our conference and we'll

3029
02:23:52,080 --> 02:23:50,140
have a Rae Hernandez will have reverend

3030
02:23:56,309 --> 02:23:52,090
john paul sheri wild clifford mahooty

3031
02:23:59,309 --> 02:23:56,319
and many many brad olsen I like to

3032
02:24:02,279 --> 02:23:59,319
Camacho and Len Caston it's a good

3033
02:24:05,819 --> 02:24:02,289
friend of Jason's there and it'll be a

3034
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:05,829
pretty amazing conference for by

3035
02:24:13,800 --> 02:24:09,850
awareness life Expo so you're also you

3036
02:24:15,889 --> 02:24:13,810
have some tickets to give away let's can

3037
02:24:18,719 --> 02:24:15,899
I can you give out your Facebook page

3038
02:24:22,050 --> 02:24:18,729
anybody listening to us right now I'm

3039
02:24:24,389 --> 02:24:22,060
doing this off-the-cuff because we were

3040
02:24:27,300 --> 02:24:24,399
gonna take phone calls and then Jason

3041
02:24:29,219 --> 02:24:27,310
wiggled his way onto the show and we

3042
02:24:31,859 --> 02:24:29,229
just got backed up so we can blame Jason

3043
02:24:34,229 --> 02:24:31,869
for this but just yeah I'm gonna be

3044
02:24:38,429 --> 02:24:34,239
doing a contest to give away ten live

3045
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:38,439
streaming tickets for people who want to

3046
02:24:44,010 --> 02:24:41,770
stay in their home and just stream it on

3047
02:24:45,090 --> 02:24:44,020
their computer it's pretty cool for

3048
02:24:48,420 --> 02:24:45,100
October 14

3049
02:24:52,500 --> 02:24:48,430
13 14 15 it'll be pretty amazing and

3050
02:24:55,620 --> 02:24:52,510
giving away 10 livestream tickets the

3051
02:25:00,050 --> 02:24:55,630
value of $25 each and that'll be on my

3052
02:25:03,750 --> 02:25:00,060
facebook it's John D'Souza John D'Souza

3053
02:25:06,689 --> 02:25:03,760
named D like David es oh you see a

3054
02:25:10,050 --> 02:25:06,699
Facebook just go to that and I'll be

3055
02:25:10,889 --> 02:25:10,060
giving up those tickets tonight probably

3056
02:25:12,510 --> 02:25:10,899
after the show

3057
02:25:14,609 --> 02:25:12,520
and you just have to know something

3058
02:25:16,590 --> 02:25:14,619
about the clear hearers that's all you

3059
02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:16,600
just have to know what's another word

3060
02:25:21,389 --> 02:25:18,850
for no no I already used that one in

3061
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:21,399
last night's contest you just have to

3062
02:25:26,370 --> 02:25:24,010
know from the book just the most basic

3063
02:25:28,530 --> 02:25:26,380
things about clear hearing and that'll

3064
02:25:32,599 --> 02:25:28,540
be the question give away those tickets

3065
02:25:40,580 --> 02:25:32,609
okay I'm actually posting it right now

3066
02:25:43,889 --> 02:25:40,590
for the dream tickets yes boom done and

3067
02:25:46,500 --> 02:25:43,899
very exciting and Jason before I let you

3068
02:25:53,189 --> 02:25:46,510
go what what's your next book what are

3069
02:25:56,130 --> 02:25:53,199
you working on hmm also I want to thank

3070
02:25:58,740 --> 02:25:56,140
Jason for doing the cover for the clear

3071
02:26:02,340 --> 02:25:58,750
hearers he did a fantastic job anybody

3072
02:26:04,740 --> 02:26:02,350
goes and looks at that he did a picture

3073
02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:04,750
of a clear hearer receiving the great

3074
02:26:10,109 --> 02:26:08,290
voice on the cover of this book and he

3075
02:26:12,330 --> 02:26:10,119
helped me to edit and put together the

3076
02:26:14,399 --> 02:26:12,340
book as well he did a fantastic job if

3077
02:26:16,050 --> 02:26:14,409
you see that cover that is what a clear

3078
02:26:18,210 --> 02:26:16,060
hearer looks like when they are

3079
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:18,220
receiving the great voice it's pretty

3080
02:26:23,460 --> 02:26:21,010
it's spiritual but it's no it's cool the

3081
02:26:26,639 --> 02:26:23,470
illustration is cool it's it's it's

3082
02:26:28,229 --> 02:26:26,649
really cool so now Jason's yeah Jason

3083
02:26:31,740 --> 02:26:28,239
really quick what's your what's your

3084
02:26:33,780 --> 02:26:31,750
next book Jason crank somehow yeah yeah

3085
02:26:36,330 --> 02:26:33,790
I am I actually I'm not gonna say

3086
02:26:38,580 --> 02:26:36,340
anything because that there's a couple

3087
02:26:40,559 --> 02:26:38,590
projects I'm working on and I'm even

3088
02:26:42,899 --> 02:26:40,569
talking to Jon and and helping me out

3089
02:26:45,210 --> 02:26:42,909
with a couple new projects too big but

3090
02:26:47,309 --> 02:26:45,220
it's gonna be it's gonna be cool and

3091
02:26:49,439 --> 02:26:47,319
Jimmy you'll be the first to know

3092
02:26:51,389 --> 02:26:49,449
thank you so much Jason thank you so

3093
02:26:54,240 --> 02:26:51,399
much John we've got it out there on

3094
02:26:57,240 --> 02:26:54,250
Twitter now just go to John's Facebook

3095
02:26:58,590 --> 02:26:57,250
page he'll be giving away 10 streaming

3096
02:27:00,870 --> 02:26:58,600
packages for the

3097
02:27:02,760 --> 02:27:00,880
conference this weekend and also I will

3098
02:27:07,939 --> 02:27:02,770
remind everybody and you can go to

3099
02:27:12,420 --> 02:27:07,949
John's page and awareness Life Expo calm

3100
02:27:15,870 --> 02:27:12,430
for the first ten Fader knots that show

3101
02:27:19,410 --> 02:27:15,880
up on Friday morning will get a full

3102
02:27:22,349 --> 02:27:19,420
weekend pass package okay and I think

3103
02:27:25,859 --> 02:27:22,359
tomorrow night on the show on open lines

3104
02:27:29,219 --> 02:27:25,869
I'll give away a full-on VIP package

3105
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:29,229
tomorrow night to one lucky winner I'll

3106
02:27:33,059 --> 02:27:31,090
do that I don't care what Xavier says

3107
02:27:34,679 --> 02:27:33,069
I'm just gonna do it and I'll do that

3108
02:27:36,059 --> 02:27:34,689
tomorrow night thank you guys so much

3109
02:27:38,040 --> 02:27:36,069
what a great show

3110
02:27:40,710 --> 02:27:38,050
and you know I love the both of you and

3111
02:27:43,620 --> 02:27:40,720
just thank you just a great conversation

3112
02:27:45,260 --> 02:27:43,630
tonight love you Jimmy thank you so much

3113
02:27:48,389 --> 02:27:45,270
thank you bye Jason

3114
02:27:50,130 --> 02:27:48,399
right all right everybody I'm gonna take

3115
02:27:53,099 --> 02:27:50,140
a break right here and when I come back

3116
02:27:55,080 --> 02:27:53,109
I'll open up the phone lines and the

3117
02:27:56,939 --> 02:27:55,090
thing is you know of course I do want to

3118
02:27:59,250 --> 02:27:56,949
talk about clear hearers and the great

3119
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voice but also I know everybody wants to

3120
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talk about Tom DeLonge and what happened

3121
02:28:05,580 --> 02:28:03,399
this morning with this live stream and

3122
02:28:07,469 --> 02:28:05,590
so that's it I'll open up the phone

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02:28:09,330 --> 02:28:07,479
lines open conversation to everybody

3124
02:28:12,210 --> 02:28:09,340
this is fade to black I'm your host

3125
02:28:33,439 --> 02:28:12,220
Jimmy Church I'll be right back

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3232
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the Anaheim Hills Northern California

3233
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3234
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control 0% contained and I've got this

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at no cost to night so if you're

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listening to this show for whatever

3241
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reason if you're up there listening to

3242
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this show you're probably safe but the

3243
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point is simple you can take refuge at

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the Chancellor ranch in Bodega Bay the

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owners there so that they can

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bring your pets your kids anything we

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just want you to be safe again

3249
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Chancellor ranch in Bodega Bay okay

3250
02:34:53,091 --> 02:34:51,751
alright let's let's go to the phones hi

3251
02:34:58,791 --> 02:34:53,101
you're live on fade to black who's

3252
02:35:06,921 --> 02:34:58,801
calling hey Walt again is that your last

3253
02:35:11,321 --> 02:35:06,931
name again hey how you doing mister

3254
02:35:16,780 --> 02:35:13,301
listen

3255
02:35:19,751 --> 02:35:16,790
like 22 fire spontaneously dispersed

3256
02:35:21,730 --> 02:35:19,761
Sunday they never talked about I never

3257
02:35:27,160 --> 02:35:21,740
really read about what was a probable

3258
02:35:31,591 --> 02:35:27,170
cause yeah okay the announcement today

3259
02:35:34,301 --> 02:35:31,601
on that the possibility that humans

3260
02:35:36,700 --> 02:35:34,311
these are that's what those were the

3261
02:35:39,030 --> 02:35:36,710
words that they used right humans I

3262
02:35:41,440 --> 02:35:39,040
thought I found that strange but anyway

3263
02:35:43,301 --> 02:35:41,450
they have not looked into the point

3264
02:35:46,001 --> 02:35:43,311
sources they haven't looked into any of

3265
02:35:48,070 --> 02:35:46,011
that right now all of the resources are

3266
02:35:50,560 --> 02:35:48,080
geared to saving lives

3267
02:35:54,640 --> 02:35:50,570
you know the reports today coming out of

3268
02:35:57,220 --> 02:35:54,650
Napa is that there are five hundred over

3269
02:35:58,570 --> 02:35:57,230
five hundred people missing now that

3270
02:36:01,150 --> 02:35:58,580
doesn't mean that five hundred people

3271
02:36:03,551 --> 02:36:01,160
have have perished or lost their lives

3272
02:36:05,290 --> 02:36:03,561
but they have family members and friends

3273
02:36:07,360 --> 02:36:05,300
up there that are trying to get in touch

3274
02:36:09,461 --> 02:36:07,370
with people that they cannot now cell

3275
02:36:11,890 --> 02:36:09,471
service is knocked out in a lot of areas

3276
02:36:15,400 --> 02:36:11,900
and phones so that could be part of it

3277
02:36:17,650 --> 02:36:15,410
but oh man you know what you know what

3278
02:36:19,360 --> 02:36:17,660
if when you look at it as the

3279
02:36:22,751 --> 02:36:19,370
destruction I was looking at some drone

3280
02:36:24,430 --> 02:36:22,761
footage today I mean block after block

3281
02:36:27,520 --> 02:36:24,440
after block house after house after

3282
02:36:30,671 --> 02:36:27,530
house you know the last count was over

3283
02:36:32,921 --> 02:36:30,681
two thousand structures mm you know

3284
02:36:35,551 --> 02:36:32,931
that's that's not a small fire you know

3285
02:36:38,171 --> 02:36:35,561
it's it's over a hundred thousand acres

3286
02:36:40,240 --> 02:36:38,181
and and it's not just completely out of

3287
02:36:43,900 --> 02:36:40,250
control it's going in all directions at

3288
02:36:46,870 --> 02:36:43,910
the same time I'm curious about why the

3289
02:36:50,171 --> 02:36:46,880
silence speaks loudly and I can't hear

3290
02:36:52,990 --> 02:36:50,181
any information well and again the

3291
02:36:56,650 --> 02:36:53,000
reason for that is and I understand they

3292
02:36:59,560 --> 02:36:56,660
are overwhelmed so their whole goal here

3293
02:37:03,280 --> 02:36:59,570
right now all of the resources are

3294
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:03,290
saving lives that's it that's that's

3295
02:37:07,990 --> 02:37:05,210
where everything is geared towards and I

3296
02:37:09,761 --> 02:37:08,000
understand that I fully get it before

3297
02:37:12,570 --> 02:37:09,771
you know they'll worry about the

3298
02:37:16,020 --> 02:37:12,580
investigation later all resources are

3299
02:37:18,790 --> 02:37:16,030
you know steered towards saving lives

3300
02:37:20,680 --> 02:37:18,800
well Jimmy Jimmy the reason I call goes

3301
02:37:23,080 --> 02:37:20,690
because I wanted to talk to John I

3302
02:37:26,290 --> 02:37:23,090
turned down the FBI's request to join

3303
02:37:26,860 --> 02:37:26,300
them back in 1970 at 26,000 as a special

3304
02:37:29,710 --> 02:37:26,870
agent

3305
02:37:32,950 --> 02:37:29,720
and I was wondering with the current pay

3306
02:37:34,660 --> 02:37:32,960
scale was oh yeah I have no idea you

3307
02:37:37,660 --> 02:37:34,670
know what man you could probably go to

3308
02:37:41,410 --> 02:37:37,670
FBI dot org and go to click on our

3309
02:37:45,120 --> 02:37:41,420
careers button sir I'm serious ok

3310
02:37:47,530 --> 02:37:45,130
absurds all I'll do that thank you

3311
02:37:50,290 --> 02:37:47,540
anything you see he mentioned some

3312
02:37:52,360 --> 02:37:50,300
things that hit him about you know

3313
02:37:55,660 --> 02:37:52,370
hearing a voice or a clear voice

3314
02:37:59,349 --> 02:37:55,670
whatever that's called and I've had that

3315
02:38:02,280 --> 02:37:59,359
experience three times of my life you

3316
02:38:07,090 --> 02:38:02,290
see the first time was it saved my butt

3317
02:38:10,360 --> 02:38:07,100
and by the way I refuse to obey that the

3318
02:38:13,210 --> 02:38:10,370
commanding voice at three three times

3319
02:38:17,020 --> 02:38:13,220
and the third time I said no I'm not

3320
02:38:18,880 --> 02:38:17,030
gonna do that and not act and hit with

3321
02:38:23,889 --> 02:38:18,890
that nice definitely a deadly weapon for

3322
02:38:26,280 --> 02:38:23,899
me oh yeah we lost you your your phone

3323
02:38:32,560 --> 02:38:26,290
started to break up there Walt

3324
02:38:36,520 --> 02:38:32,570
I'll say it again no no actually won't

3325
02:38:39,940 --> 02:38:36,530
do you've we've lost you my friend okay

3326
02:38:41,920 --> 02:38:39,950
all right well what was there and sorry

3327
02:38:47,530 --> 02:38:41,930
about that Walt it's just not working

3328
02:38:49,360 --> 02:38:47,540
out but totally agree Wallace had three

3329
02:38:52,270 --> 02:38:49,370
times where he's heard the voices and

3330
02:38:53,530 --> 02:38:52,280
ignored them that's that's not a good

3331
02:39:00,340 --> 02:38:53,540
thing high your life I'm fade to black

3332
02:39:04,929 --> 02:39:00,350
who's calling Jimmy yes it's me hi Fran

3333
02:39:07,990 --> 02:39:04,939
how are you I'm good but my friends in

3334
02:39:09,370 --> 02:39:08,000
California aren't no nope nope nope it's

3335
02:39:12,610 --> 02:39:09,380
not good out here right now

3336
02:39:15,910 --> 02:39:12,620
oh it's it's just not well the Northern

3337
02:39:21,130 --> 02:39:15,920
California friends I have friends all

3338
02:39:26,250 --> 02:39:21,140
over the state but oh my god I'm just so

3339
02:39:29,889 --> 02:39:26,260
one thing I'm praying so hard for

3340
02:39:34,960 --> 02:39:29,899
northern Cal because the fire the last

3341
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:34,970
thing I heard was that it was about four

3342
02:39:40,479 --> 02:39:37,850
miles from my house my old house right

3343
02:39:43,859 --> 02:39:40,489
and I'm

3344
02:39:48,279 --> 02:39:43,869
freaking out going everybody be okay

3345
02:39:49,749 --> 02:39:48,289
yeah I hope you know like I said my you

3346
02:39:52,529 --> 02:39:49,759
know I have family up there my two

3347
02:39:55,510 --> 02:39:52,539
brothers and of course all of their

3348
02:40:00,099 --> 02:39:55,520
counterparts in the family children

3349
02:40:02,079 --> 02:40:00,109
wives is but they they they were safe

3350
02:40:05,859 --> 02:40:02,089
and they you know they couldn't reach

3351
02:40:08,380 --> 02:40:05,869
out to us and answer texts because the

3352
02:40:13,210 --> 02:40:08,390
cell phones are down so there you go

3353
02:40:16,090 --> 02:40:13,220
they believe it or not Facebook right

3354
02:40:19,119 --> 02:40:16,100
that we got through on Facebook they

3355
02:40:22,539 --> 02:40:19,129
have the internet which is sporadic

3356
02:40:24,789 --> 02:40:22,549
enough but no cell phones and they are

3357
02:40:27,670 --> 02:40:24,799
right in the middle that's that's how

3358
02:40:30,550 --> 02:40:27,680
I've been keeping in contact with a few

3359
02:40:34,359 --> 02:40:30,560
friends up north yeah that's like oh my

3360
02:40:38,559 --> 02:40:34,369
god you know is it creeped me out I'm

3361
02:40:40,929 --> 02:40:38,569
going oh my god my friends are in danger

3362
02:40:44,499 --> 02:40:40,939
of course of course of course

3363
02:40:50,189 --> 02:40:44,509
I don't the other thing I wonder thank

3364
02:40:54,389 --> 02:40:50,199
you for was doing a big whoop for the

3365
02:40:56,319 --> 02:40:54,399
awareness life thing here in Arizona

3366
02:40:59,319 --> 02:40:56,329
you're gonna be there right

3367
02:41:03,609 --> 02:40:59,329
oh hell yeah yeah of course let's ride

3368
02:41:06,369 --> 02:41:03,619
down the street yeah yeah like 25 miles

3369
02:41:08,079 --> 02:41:06,379
yeah same deal yeah you guys are going

3370
02:41:11,439 --> 02:41:08,089
to have a good time as we can for sure

3371
02:41:16,590 --> 02:41:11,449
yeah and I'm hoping that while I'm there

3372
02:41:19,989 --> 02:41:16,600
I can get a few people together to do a

3373
02:41:23,849 --> 02:41:19,999
prayer circle or something whatever you

3374
02:41:28,389 --> 02:41:23,859
want to call it not prayer but intention

3375
02:41:32,829 --> 02:41:28,399
meditate those fires yep a nice little

3376
02:41:38,469 --> 02:41:32,839
meditation absolutely and when are you

3377
02:41:41,170 --> 02:41:38,479
gonna get there tomorrow yeah okay well

3378
02:41:42,969 --> 02:41:41,180
I'm sure a few of you will call in to

3379
02:41:45,819 --> 02:41:42,979
the show tomorrow night and let us know

3380
02:41:47,619 --> 02:41:45,829
and and we'll we'll announce it again

3381
02:41:49,389 --> 02:41:47,629
tomorrow night thank you so much Fran

3382
02:41:51,599 --> 02:41:49,399
and definitely go and do that meditation

3383
02:41:54,190 --> 02:41:51,609
that's a great idea

3384
02:41:56,740 --> 02:41:54,200
yeah thank you

3385
02:42:01,270 --> 02:41:56,750
Jimmy you got it from yeah a meditation

3386
02:42:04,990 --> 02:42:01,280
is a really really good idea now tonight

3387
02:42:07,990 --> 02:42:05,000
right after this show we're gonna have

3388
02:42:12,969 --> 02:42:08,000
the asteroid flyby that's right

3389
02:42:15,510 --> 02:42:12,979
asteroid 2012 TC 4 is gonna cruise by

3390
02:42:19,000 --> 02:42:15,520
right after the show it'll be at about

3391
02:42:22,810 --> 02:42:19,010
its closest approach will be at about

3392
02:42:25,330 --> 02:42:22,820
10:40 2 p.m. Pacific time we wrap the

3393
02:42:28,810 --> 02:42:25,340
show here in about 15 minutes at 10:00

3394
02:42:32,560 --> 02:42:28,820
p.m. so 1042 now you can check it out if

3395
02:42:36,100 --> 02:42:32,570
you go to space.com they've got the

3396
02:42:39,219 --> 02:42:36,110
slough telescope is following the

3397
02:42:41,410 --> 02:42:39,229
asteroid and you know this thing is not

3398
02:42:44,440 --> 02:42:41,420
small by the way some are saying it's

3399
02:42:47,310 --> 02:42:44,450
about 90 feet across but we're gonna see

3400
02:42:51,490 --> 02:42:47,320
it and it's gonna cruise by earth nearly

3401
02:42:55,480 --> 02:42:51,500
for some satellites it's actually that

3402
02:42:57,610 --> 02:42:55,490
close now I'm pretty excited about this

3403
02:43:01,179 --> 02:42:57,620
you can go to slews website and you can

3404
02:43:04,660 --> 02:43:01,189
also go to space.com but this isn't

3405
02:43:08,170 --> 02:43:04,670
gonna happen again well you know the the

3406
02:43:10,030 --> 02:43:08,180
this asteroids orbit if you go and you

3407
02:43:13,150 --> 02:43:10,040
watch some of the animations and it's

3408
02:43:15,940 --> 02:43:13,160
projected path it is so close to Earth

3409
02:43:17,890 --> 02:43:15,950
it looks like in and I've seen this on

3410
02:43:22,540 --> 02:43:17,900
big screen it looks like it's gonna

3411
02:43:25,240 --> 02:43:22,550
smack us but they say it's gonna miss us

3412
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:25,250
but you can actually watch it tonight at

3413
02:43:30,250 --> 02:43:28,010
around 10:40 2 p.m. you can watch it now

3414
02:43:32,830 --> 02:43:30,260
right well you know go at 10 o'clock

3415
02:43:36,330 --> 02:43:32,840
after the show but Wow

3416
02:43:40,120 --> 02:43:36,340
go to the slew website that's SL oo H

3417
02:43:42,190 --> 02:43:40,130
slew or you can go to space.com they are

3418
02:43:44,200 --> 02:43:42,200
actually broadcasting live right now

3419
02:43:47,469 --> 02:43:44,210
let's go back to the phones hi you're

3420
02:43:50,110 --> 02:43:47,479
live on fade to black who's calling big

3421
02:43:56,280 --> 02:43:50,120
name Hamilton hey Damon Damian how are

3422
02:43:58,450 --> 02:43:56,290
you forgot to tell me that yesterday

3423
02:44:02,850 --> 02:43:58,460
thank you thank you

3424
02:44:05,860 --> 02:44:02,860
9 hey but you know what's going on is

3425
02:44:07,720 --> 02:44:05,870
there's how do I even tell you what this

3426
02:44:14,411 --> 02:44:07,730
asteroid thing that you're talking

3427
02:44:18,310 --> 02:44:14,421
about its making stuff even for me in a

3428
02:44:22,211 --> 02:44:18,320
way do you feel that it's like changing

3429
02:44:25,240 --> 02:44:22,221
our perspective on life or the Astra the

3430
02:44:27,850 --> 02:44:25,250
asteroid not even yeah something's going

3431
02:44:29,951 --> 02:44:27,860
on Jimmy it's like I don't know what it

3432
02:44:33,280 --> 02:44:29,961
is but I just been really ancient to

3433
02:44:36,310 --> 02:44:33,290
talk about this and it I'm gonna be out

3434
02:44:38,650 --> 02:44:36,320
here waiting for it right oh you are too

3435
02:44:41,530 --> 02:44:38,660
right I'm in Northern California I live

3436
02:44:44,440 --> 02:44:41,540
near Chico California so I'm pretty

3437
02:44:51,190 --> 02:44:44,450
close to Mount Shasta but not exactly

3438
02:44:53,860 --> 02:44:51,200
there you're in some heavy wind though

3439
02:44:55,600 --> 02:44:53,870
Damian it's really loud yeah yeah yeah

3440
02:45:01,780 --> 02:44:55,610
it's really loud on our system here but

3441
02:45:07,720 --> 02:45:01,790
I'm not concerned about it not in that

3442
02:45:13,240 --> 02:45:07,730
regards Jim is more like like wakening

3443
02:45:17,860 --> 02:45:13,250
or I don't know that's what I'm saying

3444
02:45:19,451 --> 02:45:17,870
I'm you're asking my opinion I don't

3445
02:45:21,881 --> 02:45:19,461
think it's yeah I don't think it's

3446
02:45:25,421 --> 02:45:21,891
affecting us I don't

3447
02:45:28,150 --> 02:45:25,431
it's no I know I know I don't think I

3448
02:45:31,871 --> 02:45:28,160
don't think it would be big enough to

3449
02:45:36,100 --> 02:45:31,881
cause the fluctuations that would be

3450
02:45:39,400 --> 02:45:36,110
necessary to cause any any changes in

3451
02:45:41,740 --> 02:45:39,410
consciousness or attitude or feelings if

3452
02:45:43,150 --> 02:45:41,750
you're feeling that it's probably

3453
02:45:45,341 --> 02:45:43,160
something else I don't think it's the

3454
02:45:48,490 --> 02:45:45,351
asteroid and I'll give you my me to tell

3455
02:45:50,261 --> 02:45:48,500
you why why because what if you're

3456
02:45:54,041 --> 02:45:50,271
feeling the same way three days from now

3457
02:45:58,480 --> 02:45:54,051
after this thing is well past us know

3458
02:46:03,280 --> 02:45:58,490
exactly and I know anything is like I

3459
02:46:06,341 --> 02:46:03,290
don't know what it is and I don't know

3460
02:46:08,291 --> 02:46:06,351
it's not that gonna change completely

3461
02:46:11,371 --> 02:46:08,301
the way we think or how we feel or

3462
02:46:15,911 --> 02:46:11,381
consciousness is more of a like

3463
02:46:19,360 --> 02:46:15,921
redirection right you know like a China

3464
02:46:21,520 --> 02:46:19,370
skiers in a certain way I feel that is

3465
02:46:24,961 --> 02:46:21,530
good and with all these fire

3466
02:46:27,970 --> 02:46:24,971
going on that is another distraction

3467
02:46:31,030 --> 02:46:27,980
itself yeah that's a that's you know

3468
02:46:33,490 --> 02:46:31,040
that's that's huge that is I mean the

3469
02:46:35,680 --> 02:46:33,500
more that and and again Damien I want to

3470
02:46:39,100 --> 02:46:35,690
thank you for calling in tonight and and

3471
02:46:41,680 --> 02:46:39,110
making us aware of all of this but yeah

3472
02:46:44,470 --> 02:46:41,690
absolutely thank you so much Damien be

3473
02:46:45,430 --> 02:46:44,480
safe and be well and let us know what

3474
02:46:52,030 --> 02:46:45,440
you see tonight

3475
02:46:55,001 --> 02:46:52,040
okay being positive positive our

3476
02:46:57,850 --> 02:46:55,011
consciousness is it's the way higher

3477
02:47:00,761 --> 02:46:57,860
than anything out there for that they're

3478
02:47:03,251 --> 02:47:00,771
not just being Father dot everyone thank

3479
02:47:13,091 --> 02:47:03,261
you so much Damien okay be safe and not

3480
02:47:13,810 --> 02:47:13,101
don't go watch something it's going down

3481
02:47:19,511 --> 02:47:13,820
tonight

3482
02:47:20,140 --> 02:47:19,521
night-vision goggles I can tell you that

3483
02:47:25,150 --> 02:47:20,150
right now

3484
02:47:28,001 --> 02:47:25,160
you can certainly watch it online

3485
02:47:30,310 --> 02:47:28,011
I have heard some reports saying that

3486
02:47:32,980 --> 02:47:30,320
it's possible to see this with the naked

3487
02:47:35,261 --> 02:47:32,990
eye if you're in if you're in an area

3488
02:47:37,930 --> 02:47:35,271
without a bunch of light pollution and

3489
02:47:38,921 --> 02:47:37,940
you know exactly where to look at the

3490
02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:38,931
right time with some night vision

3491
02:47:45,030 --> 02:47:41,690
tonight and that would be really really

3492
02:47:50,020 --> 02:47:45,040
cool you know I'm just wondering the

3493
02:47:53,020 --> 02:47:50,030
x-37b right think about that a week are

3494
02:47:55,270 --> 02:47:53,030
we gonna do something I would by the way

3495
02:47:58,330 --> 02:47:55,280
here you know this thing is eighty nine

3496
02:48:01,511 --> 02:47:58,340
feet across and it's doing this close of

3497
02:48:03,100 --> 02:48:01,521
a flyby why aren't we attaching

3498
02:48:05,171 --> 02:48:03,110
something why aren't we landing on this

3499
02:48:09,070 --> 02:48:05,181
why aren't we doing something why aren't

3500
02:48:14,801 --> 02:48:09,080
we capturing it what if it was 89 feet

3501
02:48:17,051 --> 02:48:14,811
of solid gold right solid diamond man

3502
02:48:19,961 --> 02:48:17,061
lasso that baby and bring it down here

3503
02:48:22,720 --> 02:48:19,971
let's check it out you know that's

3504
02:48:23,890 --> 02:48:22,730
that's that's that's my thought hi

3505
02:48:25,830 --> 02:48:23,900
you're live on fade to black who's

3506
02:48:31,540 --> 02:48:25,840
calling

3507
02:48:35,410 --> 02:48:31,550
yes Gabriel oh my goodness gracious how

3508
02:48:37,330 --> 02:48:35,420
are you my friend good I don't I don't

3509
02:48:41,769 --> 02:48:37,340
believe that it's you so you have to

3510
02:48:43,840 --> 02:48:41,779
smile in - you have to smile and and

3511
02:48:45,929 --> 02:48:43,850
tweet out your picture then I'll know

3512
02:48:50,980 --> 02:48:45,939
who it is

3513
02:48:55,059 --> 02:48:50,990
do you know that so what's on your mind

3514
02:49:00,550 --> 02:48:55,069
man yeah you know I'm just I'm enjoying

3515
02:49:02,080 --> 02:49:00,560
me a whole meteor deal and the I want to

3516
02:49:03,370 --> 02:49:02,090
see it but I don't know how much

3517
02:49:07,450 --> 02:49:03,380
visibility we'll have because we had

3518
02:49:12,790 --> 02:49:07,460
some fog cover here so oh yeah you would

3519
02:49:13,750 --> 02:49:12,800
need a clear night yeah real clear but

3520
02:49:15,160 --> 02:49:13,760
yeah I just

3521
02:49:17,679 --> 02:49:15,170
I'm loving this show tonight it was

3522
02:49:19,599 --> 02:49:17,689
amazing great show tonight I mean great

3523
02:49:22,510 --> 02:49:19,609
show you know you know it's really cool

3524
02:49:25,240 --> 02:49:22,520
Gabriel every single night you know

3525
02:49:29,110 --> 02:49:25,250
every single night it's just dynamic

3526
02:49:31,480 --> 02:49:29,120
here every single night every night it's

3527
02:49:33,670 --> 02:49:31,490
it's it's the best show ever right and

3528
02:49:36,219 --> 02:49:33,680
that's that's that's my hata - it's my

3529
02:49:39,969 --> 02:49:36,229
to do but tonight it was really good

3530
02:49:45,790 --> 02:49:39,979
what'd you think what did you see the

3531
02:49:47,889 --> 02:49:45,800
Tom DeLonge livestream today I did not I

3532
02:49:49,929 --> 02:49:47,899
had I didn't get to do that I'm gonna

3533
02:49:52,030 --> 02:49:49,939
probably see if I can't watch that

3534
02:49:54,639 --> 02:49:52,040
tonight when I get home yeah yeah do

3535
02:49:56,679 --> 02:49:54,649
that it's right there on Facebook we

3536
02:49:59,590 --> 02:49:56,689
have the links up just going to Twitter

3537
02:50:02,200 --> 02:49:59,600
and jump into the feed and go and watch

3538
02:50:06,599 --> 02:50:02,210
it we'll be talking about it at length

3539
02:50:09,550 --> 02:50:06,609
tomorrow night on fate or night for sure

3540
02:50:13,030 --> 02:50:09,560
I can't wait okay so what's on your mind

3541
02:50:16,240 --> 02:50:13,040
you called me yeah I just you know

3542
02:50:20,230 --> 02:50:16,250
lately it's been a little weird here in

3543
02:50:21,400 --> 02:50:20,240
Colorado we've had and like you know I

3544
02:50:25,599 --> 02:50:21,410
live out in Sterling which is pretty

3545
02:50:29,170 --> 02:50:25,609
pretty far out and we've had quite a bit

3546
02:50:32,920 --> 02:50:29,180
of activity going on out here as far as

3547
02:50:35,200 --> 02:50:32,930
military is concerned and I don't post

3548
02:50:36,639 --> 02:50:35,210
about it too much because yeah okay

3549
02:50:37,100 --> 02:50:36,649
about it Gabriel

3550
02:50:43,610 --> 02:50:37,110
whatever

3551
02:50:45,530 --> 02:50:43,620
you are talking to me I hate that I hate

3552
02:50:51,680 --> 02:50:45,540
that I like to walk while I talk yeah

3553
02:50:56,120 --> 02:50:51,690
yeah there's a lot of junior me yeah I

3554
02:50:57,171 --> 02:50:56,130
can't Gabriel go-go-go gigas I'm worried

3555
02:50:59,211 --> 02:50:57,181
about talking on the phone about this

3556
02:51:01,430 --> 02:50:59,221
stuff now because every time we either

3557
02:51:03,770 --> 02:51:01,440
talk on the phone or post about it I end

3558
02:51:06,140 --> 02:51:03,780
up seeing a military Humvee past my

3559
02:51:07,700 --> 02:51:06,150
house I mean within minutes Wow and it's

3560
02:51:09,381 --> 02:51:07,710
because I usually go outside to talk

3561
02:51:11,270 --> 02:51:09,391
because I don't get very good reception

3562
02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:11,280
on my cell phone inside my house right

3563
02:51:15,200 --> 02:51:13,200
so I'll go outside to talk right and

3564
02:51:17,480 --> 02:51:15,210
every time I call it talk to one of my

3565
02:51:19,190 --> 02:51:17,490
friends within minutes I see this Humvee

3566
02:51:20,660 --> 02:51:19,200
come flying by and you can always tell

3567
02:51:23,900 --> 02:51:20,670
because they have those big knobby tires

3568
02:51:25,520 --> 02:51:23,910
so it's like wow and then it comes fly

3569
02:51:28,730 --> 02:51:25,530
boom you see this huge Humvee with a

3570
02:51:30,381 --> 02:51:28,740
frickin armored machine gun now it's on

3571
02:51:32,211 --> 02:51:30,391
the top and I'm just like what oh my god

3572
02:51:34,430 --> 02:51:32,221
I shouldn't talk about it really no I

3573
02:51:36,320 --> 02:51:34,440
don't like talking about it yeah because

3574
02:51:37,700 --> 02:51:36,330
it's so often I mean it's to the point

3575
02:51:39,171 --> 02:51:37,710
where that's why I kind of calmed down

3576
02:51:41,930 --> 02:51:39,181
because every time I bring it up

3577
02:51:44,841 --> 02:51:41,940
something that happened you know and a

3578
02:51:47,950 --> 02:51:44,851
lot of times I've been getting like at

3579
02:51:52,610 --> 02:51:47,960
my house I've been getting like tones

3580
02:51:54,860 --> 02:51:52,620
shot at the house go I have this this

3581
02:51:56,690 --> 02:51:54,870
really because we do a lot of bust

3582
02:51:59,511 --> 02:51:56,700
hunting right so I have this really high

3583
02:52:00,921 --> 02:51:59,521
performance recorder so I'll put it

3584
02:52:02,541 --> 02:52:00,931
outside and you can hear crickets and

3585
02:52:05,180 --> 02:52:02,551
stuff but in the background you can hear

3586
02:52:07,461 --> 02:52:05,190
this low-level humming that's just like

3587
02:52:09,711 --> 02:52:07,471
really loud and it's really intense and

3588
02:52:12,291 --> 02:52:09,721
it's been more intense at the back of my

3589
02:52:14,660 --> 02:52:12,301
house were lying image and at the front

3590
02:52:16,810 --> 02:52:14,670
of the house where my room's not Wow

3591
02:52:19,370 --> 02:52:16,820
what do you think of it yes and it's I

3592
02:52:20,870 --> 02:52:19,380
don't know I don't know but I know that

3593
02:52:24,530 --> 02:52:20,880
lately

3594
02:52:26,870 --> 02:52:24,540
I do get I've talked about how I do get

3595
02:52:30,410 --> 02:52:26,880
some you know some tones can make me get

3596
02:52:32,570 --> 02:52:30,420
angry but to be honest with you it it's

3597
02:52:34,910 --> 02:52:32,580
been doing the opposite for me because I

3598
02:52:37,551 --> 02:52:34,920
think it's because I'm Dyslexic because

3599
02:52:39,950 --> 02:52:37,561
I perceive the noise differently so what

3600
02:52:43,730 --> 02:52:39,960
they want it to enact anger actually

3601
02:52:45,921 --> 02:52:43,740
makes me calm down and be more gentle so

3602
02:52:47,570 --> 02:52:45,931
like my wife will get a little upset and

3603
02:52:49,131 --> 02:52:47,580
aggravated and I'm like why are you

3604
02:52:50,750 --> 02:52:49,141
upset what's wrong and she's just like I

3605
02:52:52,639 --> 02:52:50,760
don't know I just got upset for a reason

3606
02:52:55,910 --> 02:52:52,649
and I'm just like yeah that used to be

3607
02:52:59,750 --> 02:52:55,920
me all the time no dude so it's been

3608
02:53:04,550 --> 02:52:59,760
really strange and a lot of a lot of at

3609
02:53:06,979 --> 02:53:04,560
night we I don't see as much of this one

3610
02:53:08,599 --> 02:53:06,989
this light used to light up the sky way

3611
02:53:11,989 --> 02:53:08,609
out east and that's where this military

3612
02:53:13,279 --> 02:53:11,999
braces and that light's gone now and I

3613
02:53:16,309 --> 02:53:13,289
don't know if either they move the base

3614
02:53:17,929 --> 02:53:16,319
or what but I used to see it religiously

3615
02:53:18,529 --> 02:53:17,939
every single night and I don't see it

3616
02:53:21,950 --> 02:53:18,539
anyone

3617
02:53:23,779 --> 02:53:21,960
and it's just strange stuff so I'm

3618
02:53:25,250 --> 02:53:23,789
trying to just kind of keep my eyes and

3619
02:53:28,670 --> 02:53:25,260
ears open rather than talking too much

3620
02:53:32,420 --> 02:53:28,680
and trying to create going off Wow

3621
02:53:34,939 --> 02:53:32,430
wow that's incredible and and you know

3622
02:53:36,679 --> 02:53:34,949
what you're really noisy in the

3623
02:53:39,529 --> 02:53:36,689
background Gabriel so I'm gonna say good

3624
02:53:41,899 --> 02:53:39,539
night now but every time that he wants

3625
02:53:44,029 --> 02:53:41,909
to talk about something strange going on

3626
02:53:48,410 --> 02:53:44,039
in the skies there and he gets on his

3627
02:53:51,050 --> 02:53:48,420
cell phone a Humvee cruises by Wow

3628
02:53:53,420 --> 02:53:51,060
now that's the that's the real men in

3629
02:53:54,950 --> 02:53:53,430
black now I do want to mention to

3630
02:53:55,189 --> 02:53:54,960
everybody I'm gonna post this up right

3631
02:53:59,139 --> 02:53:55,199
now

3632
02:54:03,349 --> 02:53:59,149
uni wiki does need your help okay and

3633
02:54:06,410 --> 02:54:03,359
what what what they need to do what they

3634
02:54:10,010 --> 02:54:06,420
need your help with is they are starting

3635
02:54:12,800 --> 02:54:10,020
a podcast series and so all of the

3636
02:54:15,679 --> 02:54:12,810
production that goes with a high level

3637
02:54:17,239 --> 02:54:15,689
high quality podcast they need your help

3638
02:54:20,479 --> 02:54:17,249
with they're asking for volunteers so

3639
02:54:24,109 --> 02:54:20,489
I'm posting up right now uni wiki org

3640
02:54:26,120 --> 02:54:24,119
and I want everybody to go over check it

3641
02:54:29,059 --> 02:54:26,130
out check out uni wiki not only that but

3642
02:54:32,420 --> 02:54:29,069
create an account create a profile get

3643
02:54:35,000 --> 02:54:32,430
started this is uniting the community

3644
02:54:37,939 --> 02:54:35,010
and probably the most important part

3645
02:54:41,200 --> 02:54:37,949
about uni wiki is this all of the things

3646
02:54:43,630 --> 02:54:41,210
that we talked about on this show

3647
02:54:47,029 --> 02:54:43,640
Wikipedia that won't touch it

3648
02:54:51,710 --> 02:54:47,039
okay immediately remove you can't even

3649
02:54:54,769 --> 02:54:51,720
start a page on it they don't dig us

3650
02:54:57,769 --> 02:54:54,779
they don't so we've got to do this

3651
02:55:02,540 --> 02:54:57,779
ourselves and that's where unique e dot

3652
02:55:03,800 --> 02:55:02,550
org comes in everything that is our

3653
02:55:06,590 --> 02:55:03,810
future

3654
02:55:09,469 --> 02:55:06,600
and a database of repository of

3655
02:55:12,349 --> 02:55:09,479
knowledge the right researchers and

3656
02:55:14,630 --> 02:55:12,359
authors and all of the subjects that we

3657
02:55:16,519 --> 02:55:14,640
talk about on this show there needs to

3658
02:55:18,410 --> 02:55:16,529
be a point source for all of this not

3659
02:55:23,059 --> 02:55:18,420
only that it branches out into

3660
02:55:26,990 --> 02:55:23,069
everything else so please go over to you

3661
02:55:28,670 --> 02:55:27,000
new wiki dot org sign up and and and be

3662
02:55:31,340 --> 02:55:28,680
a part of this be a part of this

3663
02:55:34,790 --> 02:55:31,350
exciting thing that we are doing here

3664
02:55:37,040 --> 02:55:34,800
this community is large fade to black

3665
02:55:39,019 --> 02:55:37,050
the game changer Network and how we

3666
02:55:43,240 --> 02:55:39,029
handle things here and the people that

3667
02:55:46,849 --> 02:55:43,250
work with us lockstep side by side are

3668
02:55:50,750 --> 02:55:46,859
what we need to get everything out there

3669
02:55:54,439 --> 02:55:50,760
and to expand to expand its just

3670
02:55:57,590 --> 02:55:54,449
continue the reach and you can be a part

3671
02:56:01,069 --> 02:55:57,600
of it think about that I talk about all

3672
02:56:04,040 --> 02:56:01,079
the time about changing your own reality

3673
02:56:07,130 --> 02:56:04,050
being a part of this you know changing

3674
02:56:10,280 --> 02:56:07,140
the world okay well yeah listening to

3675
02:56:11,950 --> 02:56:10,290
this show is part of it that's part of

3676
02:56:14,630 --> 02:56:11,960
it you know what the next part of it is

3677
02:56:17,780 --> 02:56:14,640
actually doing something and how

3678
02:56:20,809 --> 02:56:17,790
exciting is that to be a part of this

3679
02:56:23,929 --> 02:56:20,819
directly just go to uni wiki modern

3680
02:56:27,620 --> 02:56:23,939
masters you new wiki dot org modern

3681
02:56:30,800 --> 02:56:27,630
masters dot org go register sign up and

3682
02:56:32,899 --> 02:56:30,810
help us change the world

3683
02:56:35,660 --> 02:56:32,909
that's what fade to black is all about

3684
02:56:37,969 --> 02:56:35,670
now I do want to thank right now out of

3685
02:56:40,219 --> 02:56:37,979
the gate John D'Souza for coming in

3686
02:56:44,660 --> 02:56:40,229
tonight always a great conversation but

3687
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:44,670
of course Jason quit coming in the book

3688
02:56:50,599 --> 02:56:48,000
is clear hearers you can go to John Tama

3689
02:56:53,269 --> 02:56:50,609
books and the links are right there at

3690
02:56:55,280 --> 02:56:53,279
Jimmy Church radio comm get yourself a

3691
02:56:57,200 --> 02:56:55,290
copy of it I didn't know that Jason did

3692
02:56:59,269 --> 02:56:57,210
the cover by the way that's really

3693
02:57:01,639 --> 02:56:59,279
really cool all right tomorrow night I'm

3694
02:57:04,280 --> 02:57:01,649
fade to black it's open lines all night

3695
02:57:08,210 --> 02:57:04,290
long I want to talk about Tom DeLonge

3696
02:57:10,130 --> 02:57:08,220
and his big announcement today paid to

3697
02:57:11,990 --> 02:57:10,140
Black's executive producers Rita Kumari

3698
02:57:14,179 --> 02:57:12,000
on shows produced by Hill Jay Paul Marty

3699
02:57:15,830 --> 02:57:14,189
colbaugh oj3 Rene Jonas Thank You Dennis

3700
02:57:18,349 --> 02:57:15,840
thank you Bob and now

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